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Which doesn't seem like that many. Consider: 100% of Hacker News is moderated by the same people Power laws are a thing, we shouldn't be surprised if 80% of t
by __s 6y ago
Which doesn't seem like that many. Consider:
100% of Hacker News is moderated by the same people
Power laws are a thing, we shouldn't be surprised if 80% of the moderation is done by 20% of the people (& remember, power laws are recursive)
A lot of the subreddits in the image seem related. Almost as if the people who create the most popular subreddits tend to create more than 1 subreddit & know how to effectively run them. We can argue about how effective reddit is, but "being one of the most popular subreddit" should work for this point
I say this as someone who doesn't frequent the most popular subreddits or recognize who the mods are. But I do notice moderators tend to receive quite a bit of flak which isn't always warranted
Which is to say, I'd be interested if there were some citations of other moderators claiming these mods were injected or whatnot. But this "just stating facts" 5 people fact doesn't seem relevant
- fiblye 6y agoThere's also a matter of scale. Any one of the top 50 subreddits probably get more activity than all of HN. 10000 comments on a single post isn't uncommon, but 1000 posts on an HN topic is pretty rare.
- piva00 6y agoEven more given how much of a hassle it is moderating any kind of online community. I had to deal with smaller ones and would never do that job for free again...
- onion2k 6y ago100% of Hacker News is moderated by the same people HN is open about it. That's the difference.
- nexuist 6y agoI mean, so is Reddit. Subreddit moderators are public information. All the original image did was take this data and aggregate it onto one chart. HN doesn't say "100% of posts are moderated by the same people" anywhere on the site in the same way that Reddit doesn't say "our top 100 are mostly moderated by 5 people."
- fzeroracer 6y agoOpen to some extent, yes. On others, not so much. There's been much discussion on HN with how it handles users from shadowbans, hidden rate limits, story weighting and so forth. I don't personally have a problem with those concepts at all, but it does seem weird to me that people here blast Reddit for doing the same things that HN does. There's been instances here of mods editing titles in order to appeal to the trolls (in hopes of removing flame wars, but an appeal nonetheless) for example. Now there's a full different discussion with how HN and Reddit use these tools to try and curate quality however.
- appleflaxen 6y agoisn't reddit open about it? mod names are published on every sub.
- onion2k 6y agoThe owners of the subreddits in question go out of their way to hide the fact that they own so many.
- mkolodny 6y ago> 100% of Hacker News is moderated by the same people While they seem to do a great job, I think that's a bad thing. Why should one person's opinion on what's okay to post matter more than the community's opinion? Isn't the point of voting-based communities like HN and Reddit to give the community power over what should be at the top? What would happen if these communities were entirely auto-moderated? Software could automatically remove posts that break rules. I wonder whether that would help avoid issues like we're seeing here - where power is concentrated in the hands of the few, and those few have biases that can lead to unjust moderation.
- rimliu 6y agoNarrator: they do not do a great job. And calling dang "they" may be a stretch.