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"For political views" is what they want you to think, but it was actually for threatening, harassing, and abusive behaviour, and for the mods of the sub in ques

"For political views" is what they want you to think, but it was actually for threatening, harassing, and abusive behaviour, and for the mods of the sub in question not dealing with the problem. Anyone pushing the "political views" story knows that, of course.

hackermang 7y ago
Why are you lying about this? Do you have an agenda?
eska 7y ago
The_donald was removed because it supposedly called for violence against the police. This was not true at all, but is still a regular occurrence on subreddits like news and politics, without mods ever blocking such posts and comments. You should also take a look at the leakrd conversations by mods and admins scheming to frame them. No matter your political beliefs, you should be alarmed by this.
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- britmob 7y ago
  For anyone that does not browse T_D: It was a common occurrence to see things like pictures of muslim women wearing headwear and a title of “It’s a diaper for their shit brains!”. There is casual racism, hatred towards minorities, and to top it all off, participants seemed to believe that there was nothing wrong with any of this, like you see above.
  - goostavos 7y ago
    I was a near daily T_D reader up until the resent mod debacle forced everyone to .win. In it's prime, it was a useful way to see what the 'other' perspective was for whatever was on the front page of reddit. Unfortunately, reddit seems to have disabled searching in The_Donald, so I can't poke around for what you describe. I'm not saying what you describe didn't ever happen, I'm sure it did, but calling it "common" is a strange exaggeration. There was __plenty__ to dislike about T_D. No need to invent extra stuff.
    - bduerst 7y ago
      >Unfortunately, reddit seems to have disabled searching in The_Donald, so I can't poke around for what you describe. Do you really use reddit search? Because it is a steaming pile of uselessness. You can still visit or subscribe to /r/the_donald, so I don't know if you're making this up or if you just don't know how to use reddit.
- valtism 7y ago
  T_D was not removed, nor is it removed now.
  - s1artibartfast 7y ago
    Just went and checked. Looks to be effectively shut down. 750,000 subs and literally 1 allowed post in the last month.
    - raverbashing 7y ago
      Maybe they failed to update the bots to work around the quarantine page
      - DonHopkins 7y ago
        Maybe they all followed their glorious leader's advice, and injected bleach into their veins, and shoved a flashlight with an ultraviolet lightbulb where the sun doesn't shine?
        raverbashing 7y ago
        I only hope that at least they got the proper UVC lamps and not the fake led ones
        DonHopkins 7y ago
        I also hope they used a patriotic Flag-Lite. https://maglite.com/collections/full-size/products/flaglite-led-flashlight https://maglite.com/collections/full-size/products/flaglite-...
  - thu2111 7y ago
    Then why isn't anyone posting? The absence of posts from the last month can only be due to being suspended in some way.
- bduerst 7y ago
  the_donald was quarantined, not removed, because mods failed to remove active calls for violence against individuals, who happened to be police. - Are there subreddits where people call for violence against police in general? Yes, and mods tend to remove it when reported but it generally exists. - Are there subreddits where people call for violence against individuals? No, because admins step in pretty fast if mods do not remove it quickly. This is the dichotomy that you are missing.
Moodles 7y ago
The point is: were they consistent on both sides?
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dntbnmpls 7y ago
People know it because it's the standard lie repeatedly told to people to justify censorship. Lets be honest here, it was the_donald which was harrassed and abused because some authoritarian types wanted it off reddit. If threatening, harassing and abusive behavior is grounds for quarantine then many other subs like politics, news, worldnews, atheism, [many others] deserve censorship. Also, considering you aren't american, why are you so supportive of censoring political speech in the US?
- midasz 7y ago
  > it was the_donald which was harrassed and abused because some authoritarian types wanted it off reddit By googling around I can easily find that members of the_donald created a list of thousands of addresses and phone numbers of people who are anti-trump. Or is that 'fake news'? The thing that actually got the_donald quaranteened (not even banned!) were calls to violence.. > Hopefully all State Police in Oregon refuse, hes serious. No problems shooting a cop trying to strip rights from Citizens. If he calls for help I'd come. How can you defend that? Are you just disregarding all that because you have to be victim somehow? When did those other subs call for 'shooting cops'?? > Also, considering you aren't american, why are you so supportive of censoring political speech in the US? The US political landscape has a direct effect on the rest of the world. If your political speech consists of racism, sexism, and calls to violence then I personally believe we should absolutely censor that.
  - dntbnmpls 7y ago
    > By googling around I can easily find that members of the_donald created a list of thousands of addresses and phone numbers of people who are anti-trump. Or is that 'fake news'? The thing that actually got the_donald quaranteened (not even banned!) were calls to violence.. Honestly, everything you wrote is "fake news" or one-sided nonsense. It's the same nonsense parroted by the exact people I described. Every sub I listed has had members call for violence. Especially against the right, "nazis", cops, "bigots", "sexists", "racists", "trump supporters", republicans, etc. Considering you are virtue signaling against "racism,sexism", I'm betting you called for violence many times on reddit. How right am I? > Are you just disregarding all that because you have to be victim somehow? How am I a victim? I wasn't subbed to the_donald, didn't support trump, didn't vote for trump, etc. But this year I might because people like you are dangerous. Though I suppose in a sense we are all victims because speech got restricted but I personally was not victimized. Thanks for caring though. > The US political landscape has a direct effect on the rest of the world. Are you russian? Because I was told for many years that foreign interference was destabilizing the american political system. Funny how you support foreign interference and the destabilization of the US. > If your political speech consists of racism, sexism, and calls to violence then I personally believe we should absolutely censor that. Racism and sexism are protected political speech whether you like it or not. Otherwise, people like you wouldn't be allowed to use sexist terms like "toxic masculinity". But I'll defend your right to use those silly words because I believe in free speech.

hackermang 7y ago

Why are you lying about this? Do you have an agenda?

eska 7y ago

The_donald was removed because it supposedly called for violence against the police. This was not true at all, but is still a regular occurrence on subreddits like news and politics, without mods ever blocking such posts and comments. You should also take a look at the leakrd conversations by mods and admins scheming to frame them. No matter your political beliefs, you should be alarmed by this.

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britmob 7y ago
For anyone that does not browse T_D: It was a common occurrence to see things like pictures of muslim women wearing headwear and a title of “It’s a diaper for their shit brains!”. There is casual racism, hatred towards minorities, and to top it all off, participants seemed to believe that there was nothing wrong with any of this, like you see above.
- goostavos 7y ago
  I was a near daily T_D reader up until the resent mod debacle forced everyone to .win. In it's prime, it was a useful way to see what the 'other' perspective was for whatever was on the front page of reddit. Unfortunately, reddit seems to have disabled searching in The_Donald, so I can't poke around for what you describe. I'm not saying what you describe didn't ever happen, I'm sure it did, but calling it "common" is a strange exaggeration. There was __plenty__ to dislike about T_D. No need to invent extra stuff.
  - bduerst 7y ago
    >Unfortunately, reddit seems to have disabled searching in The_Donald, so I can't poke around for what you describe. Do you really use reddit search? Because it is a steaming pile of uselessness. You can still visit or subscribe to /r/the_donald, so I don't know if you're making this up or if you just don't know how to use reddit.
valtism 7y ago
T_D was not removed, nor is it removed now.
- s1artibartfast 7y ago
  Just went and checked. Looks to be effectively shut down. 750,000 subs and literally 1 allowed post in the last month.
  - raverbashing 7y ago
    Maybe they failed to update the bots to work around the quarantine page
    - DonHopkins 7y ago
      Maybe they all followed their glorious leader's advice, and injected bleach into their veins, and shoved a flashlight with an ultraviolet lightbulb where the sun doesn't shine?
      - raverbashing 7y ago
        I only hope that at least they got the proper UVC lamps and not the fake led ones
        DonHopkins 7y ago
        I also hope they used a patriotic Flag-Lite. https://maglite.com/collections/full-size/products/flaglite-led-flashlight https://maglite.com/collections/full-size/products/flaglite-...
- thu2111 7y ago
  Then why isn't anyone posting? The absence of posts from the last month can only be due to being suspended in some way.
bduerst 7y ago
the_donald was quarantined, not removed, because mods failed to remove active calls for violence against individuals, who happened to be police. - Are there subreddits where people call for violence against police in general? Yes, and mods tend to remove it when reported but it generally exists. - Are there subreddits where people call for violence against individuals? No, because admins step in pretty fast if mods do not remove it quickly. This is the dichotomy that you are missing.

Moodles 7y ago

The point is: were they consistent on both sides?

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dntbnmpls 7y ago

People know it because it's the standard lie repeatedly told to people to justify censorship. Lets be honest here, it was the_donald which was harrassed and abused because some authoritarian types wanted it off reddit. If threatening, harassing and abusive behavior is grounds for quarantine then many other subs like politics, news, worldnews, atheism, [many others] deserve censorship. Also, considering you aren't american, why are you so supportive of censoring political speech in the US?

midasz 7y ago
> it was the_donald which was harrassed and abused because some authoritarian types wanted it off reddit By googling around I can easily find that members of the_donald created a list of thousands of addresses and phone numbers of people who are anti-trump. Or is that 'fake news'? The thing that actually got the_donald quaranteened (not even banned!) were calls to violence.. > Hopefully all State Police in Oregon refuse, hes serious. No problems shooting a cop trying to strip rights from Citizens. If he calls for help I'd come. How can you defend that? Are you just disregarding all that because you have to be victim somehow? When did those other subs call for 'shooting cops'?? > Also, considering you aren't american, why are you so supportive of censoring political speech in the US? The US political landscape has a direct effect on the rest of the world. If your political speech consists of racism, sexism, and calls to violence then I personally believe we should absolutely censor that.
- dntbnmpls 7y ago
  > By googling around I can easily find that members of the_donald created a list of thousands of addresses and phone numbers of people who are anti-trump. Or is that 'fake news'? The thing that actually got the_donald quaranteened (not even banned!) were calls to violence.. Honestly, everything you wrote is "fake news" or one-sided nonsense. It's the same nonsense parroted by the exact people I described. Every sub I listed has had members call for violence. Especially against the right, "nazis", cops, "bigots", "sexists", "racists", "trump supporters", republicans, etc. Considering you are virtue signaling against "racism,sexism", I'm betting you called for violence many times on reddit. How right am I? > Are you just disregarding all that because you have to be victim somehow? How am I a victim? I wasn't subbed to the_donald, didn't support trump, didn't vote for trump, etc. But this year I might because people like you are dangerous. Though I suppose in a sense we are all victims because speech got restricted but I personally was not victimized. Thanks for caring though. > The US political landscape has a direct effect on the rest of the world. Are you russian? Because I was told for many years that foreign interference was destabilizing the american political system. Funny how you support foreign interference and the destabilization of the US. > If your political speech consists of racism, sexism, and calls to violence then I personally believe we should absolutely censor that. Racism and sexism are protected political speech whether you like it or not. Otherwise, people like you wouldn't be allowed to use sexist terms like "toxic masculinity". But I'll defend your right to use those silly words because I believe in free speech.