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where do you go for serious political discussion?
by holler 6y ago
where do you go for serious political discussion?
- jseliger 6y agoLibraries, or marginalrevolution.com.
- uoaei 6y agoMarginal Revolution is run by Tyler Cowen who is an economist. He has largely libertarian views and uses economic theory to justify them over the span of about a blog post. I personally don't think that's enough time to make a point about the sorts of things he talks about.
- knzhou 6y agoBut Marginal Revolution is well known for having the worst comments on the internet. Literally nothing but edgy one-sentence snark. It’s just a step above caveman grunts.
- nn35 6y agoMarginal Revolution is more interesting than HN precisely because "X is widely believed, therefore X is true" doesn't fly as a line of argument over there. Although of course they do lack civility.
- xref 6y agoOnline in a forum format? I haven’t seen it exist, the medium simply isn’t conducive to it. It requires very heavy handed moderation, which in turn stifles political discussion. It’s why HN largely bans it all-together as simply not worth it.
- Moodles 6y agoReal-life political conversations are difficult enough ;-)
- Wowfunhappy 6y agoI've found the New York Times's comment section to be surprisingly decent for some reason. But that's in comparison to my very low expectations for these things.
- 0xddd 6y agoCould this have to do with the fact that the site is paywalled and not open to the bots and trolls that overwhelm other news organizations' comment sections?
- SpelingBeeChamp 6y agoIt’s because they are heavily moderated. See https://help.nytimes.com/hc/en-us/articles/115014792387-Comments https://help.nytimes.com/hc/en-us/articles/115014792387-Comm...
- magicsmoke 6y agoThere's something about having a public political decision that turns it into combat in front of an audience instead of a collaboration between two partners trying to better their situation.
- holler 6y agowhat if there’s no moderation? I mean, what if moderation is part of the problem..
- ativzzz 6y agoThen people just yell past each other and everyone becomes Hitler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Generally, when unmoderated, the loudest user(s) will drown out everyone else
- sudosysgen 6y agoThere are a few dozen smaller Discord servers whose community nature allows you to engage with more interesting political viewpoints and discuss. There are still incidents, but in general if its possible for a communist to debate an anarchocapitalist in good faith, most political discussion should be possible.
- 101404 6y agoI don't think that it requires heavy moderation. Reddit, up until some years ago, was great for political discussion. Simply ignore low quality opinions and focus on the few people who have actual knowledge. Then the "safe space" movement started and anything that wasn't mainstream opinion was banned all over the place. Suddenly, political discussion became impossible, because you could not discuss any non trivial things without few of being misunderstood and your account getting banned.