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Sometimes it's ok to think "this project isn't for me" and just leave it be. The cynical-security-concern act is boring.

by mrkurt 6y ago

bgdam 6y ago
Contrary to the impression I seem to have given you, I'm actually super excited about Deno and am planning to write my next MVP app in it. That means that I am actually a lot more vested into it, and if I want to put it in production, then I have to be concerned about things like this. When somebody says they think X is broken, and they present a solution Y which they say is better, I am definitely entitled to ask why they think Y is better when I can't see the difference.
- sirius87 6y ago
  But you don't seem to be genuinely seeking answers, at least not in this thread. Does seem you're already convinced of the projects faults. You're entitled to your opinion, of course. I had to read through the docs to understand their module system and intent. And I find it very exciting.
eloff 6y ago
Security is literally the main selling point of this thing. Otherwise just use node.
- mrkurt 6y ago
  Strawman security questions without an understanding of the tool are not very useful.
- recursive 6y ago
  There are a lot selling points. To me, the main one is typescript with no build.
  - choward 6y ago
    Clearly they have never dealt with JavaScript build tools and npm. A complete nightmare.
    - nickcox 6y ago
      Who hasn't? Isn't this precisely one of the pros of Deno?
      - choward 6y ago
        Yes. That's why I said that.
  - searchableguy 6y ago
    yarn global add ts-node prettier echo 'alias deno="ts-node"' >> ~/.zshrc echo 'alias deno-fmt="prettier --write"' >> ~/.zshrc Deno provides a standard library, good defaults, top-level async-await, doesn't break browser compatibility, better API to integrate with runtime. Internals are nicer but that's with anything without ugly legacy. They are working to get node_modules work in deno so I am kind of worried that it will be nodev2 all over.
- 40four 6y ago
  It’s one of the selling points. One of the main points I took away was ” We feel that the landscape of JavaScript and the surrounding software infrastructure has changed enough that it was worthwhile to simplify. We seek a fun and productive scripting environment that can be used for a wide range of tasks.” Sounds intriguing to me. As a fan of starting projects of as simply as possible, I will certainly be tinkering with Deno.
- brlewis 6y ago
  Promise-based APIs sold me.

Sometimes it's ok to think "this project isn't for me" and just leave it be. The cynical-security-concern act is boring.

by mrkurt 6y ago

Sometimes it's ok to think "this project isn't for me" and just leave it be. The cynical-security-concern act is boring.

bgdam 6y ago

Contrary to the impression I seem to have given you, I'm actually super excited about Deno and am planning to write my next MVP app in it. That means that I am actually a lot more vested into it, and if I want to put it in production, then I have to be concerned about things like this. When somebody says they think X is broken, and they present a solution Y which they say is better, I am definitely entitled to ask why they think Y is better when I can't see the difference.

sirius87 6y ago
But you don't seem to be genuinely seeking answers, at least not in this thread. Does seem you're already convinced of the projects faults. You're entitled to your opinion, of course. I had to read through the docs to understand their module system and intent. And I find it very exciting.

eloff 6y ago

Security is literally the main selling point of this thing. Otherwise just use node.

mrkurt 6y ago
Strawman security questions without an understanding of the tool are not very useful.
recursive 6y ago
There are a lot selling points. To me, the main one is typescript with no build.
- choward 6y ago
  Clearly they have never dealt with JavaScript build tools and npm. A complete nightmare.
  - nickcox 6y ago
    Who hasn't? Isn't this precisely one of the pros of Deno?
    - choward 6y ago
      Yes. That's why I said that.
- searchableguy 6y ago
  yarn global add ts-node prettier echo 'alias deno="ts-node"' >> ~/.zshrc echo 'alias deno-fmt="prettier --write"' >> ~/.zshrc Deno provides a standard library, good defaults, top-level async-await, doesn't break browser compatibility, better API to integrate with runtime. Internals are nicer but that's with anything without ugly legacy. They are working to get node_modules work in deno so I am kind of worried that it will be nodev2 all over.
40four 6y ago
It’s one of the selling points. One of the main points I took away was ” We feel that the landscape of JavaScript and the surrounding software infrastructure has changed enough that it was worthwhile to simplify. We seek a fun and productive scripting environment that can be used for a wide range of tasks.” Sounds intriguing to me. As a fan of starting projects of as simply as possible, I will certainly be tinkering with Deno.
brlewis 6y ago
Promise-based APIs sold me.