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I'm sorry but I just am a little incredulous that a 15 year old would be talking to me about burnout.. or about team conflict. Op have u worked a full time job

I'm sorry but I just am a little incredulous that a 15 year old would be talking to me about burnout.. or about team conflict. Op have u worked a full time job with other devs and if so for how long?

empath75 6y ago
Burnout for a 15 year old is when you’re tired of playing counterstrike and switch to overwatch for a little while.
- joshternyak 6y ago
  One of the big and impactful decisions I made in my life so far was to remove video games completely. I actually don't play video games at all.
  - kibebr 6y ago
    True. When I was 15 my parents had to sell my "gaming" computer because of our tough financial situation. I had to make do with an old computer thereafter. Of course, I was angry but that ultimately forced me to learn programming. I am now 17 and I now realize that if it wasn't for that situation, I would still be gaming instead of learning a valuable skill. Many people don't realize gaming can be a futile addiction like anything else.
- s5300 6y ago
  It could also be a 15 year old who started suffering from a debilitating musculoskeletal chronic illness at age 11, without parents who gave the slightest shit about them and zero community support, still trying their hardest to get through the hardest classes their school offers and doing the shadiest shit they possibly can to make money to feed themselves as it's illegal to work at that age. Broaden your horizons, Mr. "Empath"...
  - joshternyak 6y ago
    It could be, but it also isn't true.
    - s5300 6y ago
      What do you mean by this? If you misinterpreted, I wasn't referring to you. Or do you think something like I've stated doesn't/cannot happen? Meant this to be an example of other ways "burnout" can happen.
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't respond in the flamewar style, no matter how wrong another user is or you feel they are. If you're sharing personal experience, that's of course completely welcome, but in that case please frame it that way, rather than as an attack on someone else. Edit: you've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines in previous comments a ton. We ban accounts that do that. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting here, we'd be grateful.
- cameronfraser 6y ago
  Teenagers experience burnout all the time, this is not exclusive to adults. They have a ton of busy work thrown at them if they want to excel academically and the competition to get into good schools straight out of high school is a lot tougher than getting a good job or transferring into those schools. Clearly the OP has set a much higher bar for themselves as a teenager than most of us ever did. I think most of the comments here criticizing him are just people bitter they didn't have the grit to do it when they were the same age.
  - joshternyak 6y ago
    Thanks for the positive comment. I think the same thing.
- jamestimmins 6y ago
  Considering the username, I'm surprised this comment felt necessary. The feelings and burnout of a 15 year old is just as legitimate as those of any adult. It may be that the level of stress that will cause burnout is lower, but that should be expected for someone who is young and learning to cope with the challenges of work. Not all 15 year olds have the same lives or problems, and it's quite insulting to trivialize OP's experiences based on your own assumptions.
  - joshternyak 6y ago
    I completely agree, thank you.
  - sk0g 6y ago
    Anecdote, but I've known 3 people that would constantly label themselves an empath. 2 of them had very strong sociopathic tendencies, or utter disregard for others (that hey weren't trying to get in the pants of).
rowanG077 6y ago
I find this attitude incredibly arrogant and toxic. Why wouldn't a 15 year old be able to experience a burnout? I don't think this is age related at all. If anything a 15 year old that goes to school and has a dev job should be more likely to burnout.
- joshternyak 6y ago
  Yes, it is true.
joshternyak 6y ago
My experience of working on teams has mainly consisted of working with other web developers online. On the topic of burnout, I was trying to explain how as I was learning web development and working harder everyday, I got exhausted mentally and didn't know how to come back from it.
- swixmix 6y ago
  Sounds like you're a person just like everybody else.
  - joshternyak 6y ago
    Yes, I happen to be a person.
- darepublic 6y ago
  I shouldn't have assumed a 15 year old couldn't experience this stuff. Best of luck you seem to be doing well
nnoitra 6y ago
Wait till you hear about his 3 divorces and mortgage.

I'm sorry but I just am a little incredulous that a 15 year old would be talking to me about burnout.. or about team conflict. Op have u worked a full time job with other devs and if so for how long?

empath75 6y ago

Burnout for a 15 year old is when you’re tired of playing counterstrike and switch to overwatch for a little while.

joshternyak 6y ago
One of the big and impactful decisions I made in my life so far was to remove video games completely. I actually don't play video games at all.
- kibebr 6y ago
  True. When I was 15 my parents had to sell my "gaming" computer because of our tough financial situation. I had to make do with an old computer thereafter. Of course, I was angry but that ultimately forced me to learn programming. I am now 17 and I now realize that if it wasn't for that situation, I would still be gaming instead of learning a valuable skill. Many people don't realize gaming can be a futile addiction like anything else.
s5300 6y ago
It could also be a 15 year old who started suffering from a debilitating musculoskeletal chronic illness at age 11, without parents who gave the slightest shit about them and zero community support, still trying their hardest to get through the hardest classes their school offers and doing the shadiest shit they possibly can to make money to feed themselves as it's illegal to work at that age. Broaden your horizons, Mr. "Empath"...
- joshternyak 6y ago
  It could be, but it also isn't true.
  - s5300 6y ago
    What do you mean by this? If you misinterpreted, I wasn't referring to you. Or do you think something like I've stated doesn't/cannot happen? Meant this to be an example of other ways "burnout" can happen.
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't respond in the flamewar style, no matter how wrong another user is or you feel they are. If you're sharing personal experience, that's of course completely welcome, but in that case please frame it that way, rather than as an attack on someone else. Edit: you've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines in previous comments a ton. We ban accounts that do that. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting here, we'd be grateful.
cameronfraser 6y ago
Teenagers experience burnout all the time, this is not exclusive to adults. They have a ton of busy work thrown at them if they want to excel academically and the competition to get into good schools straight out of high school is a lot tougher than getting a good job or transferring into those schools. Clearly the OP has set a much higher bar for themselves as a teenager than most of us ever did. I think most of the comments here criticizing him are just people bitter they didn't have the grit to do it when they were the same age.
- joshternyak 6y ago
  Thanks for the positive comment. I think the same thing.
jamestimmins 6y ago
Considering the username, I'm surprised this comment felt necessary. The feelings and burnout of a 15 year old is just as legitimate as those of any adult. It may be that the level of stress that will cause burnout is lower, but that should be expected for someone who is young and learning to cope with the challenges of work. Not all 15 year olds have the same lives or problems, and it's quite insulting to trivialize OP's experiences based on your own assumptions.
- joshternyak 6y ago
  I completely agree, thank you.
- sk0g 6y ago
  Anecdote, but I've known 3 people that would constantly label themselves an empath. 2 of them had very strong sociopathic tendencies, or utter disregard for others (that hey weren't trying to get in the pants of).

rowanG077 6y ago

I find this attitude incredibly arrogant and toxic. Why wouldn't a 15 year old be able to experience a burnout? I don't think this is age related at all. If anything a 15 year old that goes to school and has a dev job should be more likely to burnout.

joshternyak 6y ago
Yes, it is true.

joshternyak 6y ago

My experience of working on teams has mainly consisted of working with other web developers online. On the topic of burnout, I was trying to explain how as I was learning web development and working harder everyday, I got exhausted mentally and didn't know how to come back from it.

swixmix 6y ago
Sounds like you're a person just like everybody else.
- joshternyak 6y ago
  Yes, I happen to be a person.
darepublic 6y ago
I shouldn't have assumed a 15 year old couldn't experience this stuff. Best of luck you seem to be doing well

nnoitra 6y ago

Wait till you hear about his 3 divorces and mortgage.