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The president must be at least planning on obstructing the bill, since the only reason they'd need 60 votes would be to overcome a veto. If we treat the absenc
by mwfunk 6y ago
The president must be at least planning on obstructing the bill, since the only reason they'd need 60 votes would be to overcome a veto.
If we treat the absences as very wimpy nay votes, and lump the 2 independents in with the party they caucus with (both Democrat), then the party breakdown looks like this:
Democrats: 35 yea, 12 nay, so ~75% in favor.
Republicans, 24 yea, 29 nay, so ~45% in favor.
The 59 yea votes consisted of 35 Democrats (King is independent but caucuses with the Democrats), and 24 Republicans. I'm much more interested in why it failed to pass, so I'll refrain from listing the yea votes for brevity.
The 4 absent senators were 2 Democrats (Sanders is independent but caucuses with the Democrats), and 2 Republicans:
Alexander (R-TN)
Murray (D-WA)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sasse (R-NE)
The 37 nay votes were from 10 Democrat and 27 Republican senators:
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blackburn (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Graham (R-SC)
Hassan (D-NH)
Hyde-Smith (R-MS)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (R-WI)
Jones (D-AL)
Kaine (D-VA)
Lankford (R-OK)
Manchin (D-WV)
McConnell (R-KY)
Perdue (R-GA)
Portman (R-OH)
Roberts (R-KS)
Romney (R-UT)
Rubio (R-FL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Toomey (R-PA)
Warner (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
Young (R-IN)
- ejstronge 6y agoUnless I’m mistaken, you’d need 66 votes to override a veto - the number 60 is for overriding a filibuster
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- CalChris 6y agoNo. First it has to be brought to the floor (not automatic) in each house with quorums present. It then takes 2/3s vote of members present in both houses. The minimum to override in the Senate would be 2/3 * 51 = 34 votes.
- vxNsr 6y agoWhat? the Senate has 100 members+VP, whats 51?
- CalChris 6y agoThe VP would never even vote in an override. 51 is the minimum for a Senate quorum [1] (the VP isn't a member and wouldn't count) and you need 2/3s of members present after the Senate is quorate to vote for an override. The vote itself has to be quorate since it will require a roll call to establish the count. There are a lot of procedural rules+hurdles. You don't just need 2/3s of 100. [1] https://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/quorum.htm https://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/quorum.htm
- function_seven 6y ago> The president must be at least planning on obstructing the bill, since the only reason they'd need 60 votes would be to overcome a veto. The veto override requires a 2/3 majority. The 60-vote threshold is required to end a filibuster.
- mwfunk 6y agoYou're right, I was jumping to conclusions that it would be vetoed. In that case I have no idea who was filibustering it, assuming that's why they needed 60 votes. I would love to know.
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- KerrickStaley 6y agoWhere did you get this information? I tried to figure it out myself but was unable to find a source.
- mwfunk 6y agoSorry, I should've provided the link: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=2&vote=00089#position https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...
- KerrickStaley 6y agoDanke!