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>we need to make this 8 hour bar die. I think I get where you're coming from but I'm at the point in my career where I like work/life balance and do not give a

>we need to make this 8 hour bar die. I think I get where you're coming from but I'm at the point in my career where I like work/life balance and do not give a shit about your email once I've turned off work (unless it's an emergency, obviously). If this doesn't happen, work creeps into life until that's all it is, no fun, no exercise, no fresh air, no social interaction, no family time - and all the negative mental and physical health effects that result from this. I mean, if a really productive brainstorm session bleeds over an hour or 2 every once in a while and we just can't stop the flood of great ideas or hit that "flow", of course, let's keep going. But every damn day? Get a life, kid! Before it's too late. On the flip side, if I get inspired to do work in my off-hours, I don't go charging it back, so to speak.

poulsbohemian 6y ago
> I'm at the point in my career where I like work/life balance and do not give a shit about your email once I've turned off work... We aren't disagreeing here... my point is not that you should work 24x7, rather... throughout my career I've noticed that value and hours are not correlated. Therefore, it strikes me as really silly to be so focused on hours worked in fields where that metric doesn't matter. I'm not saying we should get lazy and sit around, but rather find new ways of managing our work that recognize this phenomenon and seek to create working environments where we eliminate hours as a measure of productivity and instead focus on the productive output of our work.
- kyuudou 6y ago
  >eliminate hours as a measure of productivity and instead focus on the productive output of our work. Yes, totally agreed here. We're talking creative and analytical output, not cloud compute cycles.