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I am not sure i understand the problem you are trying to find information about. Maybe explain it a little bit more ? or go ask for it in the elixir forum, peop

by di4na 6y ago

I am not sure i understand the problem you are trying to find information about. Maybe explain it a little bit more ? or go ask for it in the elixir forum, people can try to be your librarians there

hinkley 6y ago
To an outsider, it seems like the BEAM documentation [and particularly, videos] go out of their way to discuss how process management and IPC communication works and how certain classes of data are managed. They talk about what makes the BEAM the BEAM to exclusion of all other concerns. Prior to finding this document (http://www.cs-lab.org/historical_beam_instruction_set.html http://www.cs-lab.org/historical_beam_instruction_set.html) I had no idea whether you could actually do computation on the BEAM. I was starting to wonder if they had misappropriated the term VM, and some sort of inline assembly trick was being used for everything but control flow and IPC. Interpreted code has very, very real computational constraints and you can't assume people will know this, even now. Especially if your system is noteworthy for how it is not like other systems. Where does it stop being 'weird' and start being conventional? The boundaries describe both sides of a distinction. Even if you're only interested in the exotic part, leave some breadcrumbs for others.
- toast0 6y ago
  Hmm, are you maybe after this page? http://erlang.org/doc/efficiency_guide/advanced.html http://erlang.org/doc/efficiency_guide/advanced.html
- di4na 6y ago
  I still don't understand what you are talking about, but i suppose this is more due to my own limitations in missing a lot of the background you come from. Sorry that i am not that useful :(
- irq-1 6y ago
  > [and particularly, videos] go out of their way to discuss how process management and IPC communication works After watching a bunch of videos on BEAM/erlang/elixir I came to the conclusion that it isn't a platform for computation, it's a platform for communication. The best video (by far) was The Soul of Erlang and Elixir • Saša Jurić https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvBT4XBdoUE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvBT4XBdoUE Two shallow benchmarks: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/erlang.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/ https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/ (phoenix is at 175)

by di4na 6y ago

I am not sure i understand the problem you are trying to find information about. Maybe explain it a little bit more ? or go ask for it in the elixir forum, people can try to be your librarians there

hinkley 6y ago

To an outsider, it seems like the BEAM documentation [and particularly, videos] go out of their way to discuss how process management and IPC communication works and how certain classes of data are managed. They talk about what makes the BEAM the BEAM to exclusion of all other concerns. Prior to finding this document (http://www.cs-lab.org/historical_beam_instruction_set.html http://www.cs-lab.org/historical_beam_instruction_set.html) I had no idea whether you could actually do computation on the BEAM. I was starting to wonder if they had misappropriated the term VM, and some sort of inline assembly trick was being used for everything but control flow and IPC. Interpreted code has very, very real computational constraints and you can't assume people will know this, even now. Especially if your system is noteworthy for how it is not like other systems. Where does it stop being 'weird' and start being conventional? The boundaries describe both sides of a distinction. Even if you're only interested in the exotic part, leave some breadcrumbs for others.

toast0 6y ago
Hmm, are you maybe after this page? http://erlang.org/doc/efficiency_guide/advanced.html http://erlang.org/doc/efficiency_guide/advanced.html
di4na 6y ago
I still don't understand what you are talking about, but i suppose this is more due to my own limitations in missing a lot of the background you come from. Sorry that i am not that useful :(
irq-1 6y ago
> [and particularly, videos] go out of their way to discuss how process management and IPC communication works After watching a bunch of videos on BEAM/erlang/elixir I came to the conclusion that it isn't a platform for computation, it's a platform for communication. The best video (by far) was The Soul of Erlang and Elixir • Saša Jurić https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvBT4XBdoUE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvBT4XBdoUE Two shallow benchmarks: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/erlang.html https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/ https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/ (phoenix is at 175)