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Can you fill me in on the "joke" here: "The cucks refer to the white men who date women on the coal fax registry. These “men” deserve to be shamed and humiliat

Can you fill me in on the "joke" here: "The cucks refer to the white men who date women on the coal fax registry. These “men” deserve to be shamed and humiliated. Once you go black, we don’t want you back."

xupybd 6y ago
Some people find it funny to emulate the most offensive things they can think of. Often fuelled by the outrage it generates. It doesn't mean it's funny for everyone but it is a possible motivation for the site.
- groundpepper 6y ago
  I don't buy that some people are so naive that they can look at a website like this, the white supremacists who obviously occupy it, and think it's a good spirited joke by normal non-racist people. White supremacy is on the rise, and it's scary seeing the denial tactics make their way to Hacker News.
  - xupybd 6y ago
    I think it's far from a good spirited joke. It's clearly gone too far and is causing real harm to real people. That's often the fall out of these 4chan esk dark humour groups. Generally these groups also pull in the genuinely hate filled as well. Also to say it's only creates for humour doesn't justify it's existence. It's does make it a very different beast than a genuine white supremacist group. It's different because these people are rage farmers. They want articles like this. They want their actions to cause outrage. They want them to be noticed. To them that's the goal. The goal is not to be exposed as a group of immature idiots causing real harm. These are like school children that carve swastikas on their desk just because they know they shouldn't.
    - happytoexplain 6y ago
      >These are like school children that carve swastikas on their desk just because they know they shouldn't. This analogy works well for young people posting on 4chan, but if that same person creates a web platform to organize people to put swastikas on buildings, that person is almost certainly not doing this just because they know they shouldn't.
      - klyrs 6y ago
        > This analogy works well for young people posting on 4chan Nevermind Dylan Roof, the Christchurch massacre, etc. To pass this off as harmless fun is really missing the point. Some of these kids take it very seriously and act on it with tragic consequences.
  - golf3 6y ago
    The white birth rate must go lower, every white baby is a victory for white supremacy, do your duty as an anti-racist and have sex with a black person.
- krapp 6y ago
  The excuse that 4channers are all just innocent, mischief-making kids and it's the rest of society that's the real problem is really starting to wear thin. If someone says they're only fucking goats ironically, they're still a goatfucker. If a community is being racist ironically to the point that actual racists take its shit seriously, mass shooters shout it out in their manifestos, and that community harasses and doxxes people for racist reasons, then that's just a racist community. If someone gets off on the outrage that racism generates, then they're just a racist and an asshole. Irony is not magical fairy dust that can be sprinkled over one's actions to make their consequences disappear. And really, at this point I don't think we can give 4chan and the like the benefit of the doubt that it's all just memes. Eventually, if you wear the mask long enough, you become the mask. 4chan became the mask a long time ago.
- kthxbye123 6y ago
  That doesn't make it not explicitly racist and white supremacist. If you set fire to a synagogue and then explained it was just to trigger the libs, do you think that would make it less of an anti-Semitic act?
  - xupybd 6y ago
    No it doesn't make it any less racist. It's simply that if it is that sort of joke articles like this are giving them more motivation to keep doing it.

xupybd 6y ago

Some people find it funny to emulate the most offensive things they can think of. Often fuelled by the outrage it generates. It doesn't mean it's funny for everyone but it is a possible motivation for the site.

groundpepper 6y ago
I don't buy that some people are so naive that they can look at a website like this, the white supremacists who obviously occupy it, and think it's a good spirited joke by normal non-racist people. White supremacy is on the rise, and it's scary seeing the denial tactics make their way to Hacker News.
- xupybd 6y ago
  I think it's far from a good spirited joke. It's clearly gone too far and is causing real harm to real people. That's often the fall out of these 4chan esk dark humour groups. Generally these groups also pull in the genuinely hate filled as well. Also to say it's only creates for humour doesn't justify it's existence. It's does make it a very different beast than a genuine white supremacist group. It's different because these people are rage farmers. They want articles like this. They want their actions to cause outrage. They want them to be noticed. To them that's the goal. The goal is not to be exposed as a group of immature idiots causing real harm. These are like school children that carve swastikas on their desk just because they know they shouldn't.
  - happytoexplain 6y ago
    >These are like school children that carve swastikas on their desk just because they know they shouldn't. This analogy works well for young people posting on 4chan, but if that same person creates a web platform to organize people to put swastikas on buildings, that person is almost certainly not doing this just because they know they shouldn't.
    - klyrs 6y ago
      > This analogy works well for young people posting on 4chan Nevermind Dylan Roof, the Christchurch massacre, etc. To pass this off as harmless fun is really missing the point. Some of these kids take it very seriously and act on it with tragic consequences.
- golf3 6y ago
  The white birth rate must go lower, every white baby is a victory for white supremacy, do your duty as an anti-racist and have sex with a black person.
krapp 6y ago
The excuse that 4channers are all just innocent, mischief-making kids and it's the rest of society that's the real problem is really starting to wear thin. If someone says they're only fucking goats ironically, they're still a goatfucker. If a community is being racist ironically to the point that actual racists take its shit seriously, mass shooters shout it out in their manifestos, and that community harasses and doxxes people for racist reasons, then that's just a racist community. If someone gets off on the outrage that racism generates, then they're just a racist and an asshole. Irony is not magical fairy dust that can be sprinkled over one's actions to make their consequences disappear. And really, at this point I don't think we can give 4chan and the like the benefit of the doubt that it's all just memes. Eventually, if you wear the mask long enough, you become the mask. 4chan became the mask a long time ago.
kthxbye123 6y ago
That doesn't make it not explicitly racist and white supremacist. If you set fire to a synagogue and then explained it was just to trigger the libs, do you think that would make it less of an anti-Semitic act?
- xupybd 6y ago
  No it doesn't make it any less racist. It's simply that if it is that sort of joke articles like this are giving them more motivation to keep doing it.