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So we shouldn't have laws against assault because people still die of assault?

subhobroto 6y ago
We were having a conversation about how passing regulations against surveillance at work is meaningless because just like all regulations, majority of companies will find ways to work around it while complying with regulations. When it became illegal to directly discriminate against race, employers found out ways to indirectly discriminate against race by putting in requirements for schooling and degrees that are just not in the reach of certain races and ethnic groups. ... but let's indulge you for a moment. I can pass all the kinds of laws against assault I want all day and you can come along and pay enough money to redefine what assault really means. Every regulation I pass is a restraint against my own freedom. I can chop my foot off as much as I want in an attempt to save my head but if someone really wanted my head, they will have it no matter how hard I try to stop it. Regulation does not help the common man at all and the rich already have help to get what they want. Regulation or no regulation.
- Spivak 6y ago
  So in your view regulation doesn’t stop anyone from doing what they want to do or we’re doing anyway. Doesn’t that imply that they can’t limit your freedom then? If regulations are totally ineffective why give them any mind at all?
  - subhobroto 6y ago
    > If regulations are totally ineffective why give them any mind at all? Because each regulation is a fly constantly nagging at you. There's nothing stopping you from continuing to do what you were doing and if you concentrate enough, you don't even feel the flies but they are still there buzzing around and nagging at you. It's annoying as hell mate. What's one regulation that really changed your life? Hold on, we are not done yet - now think of one regulation, without which you really could have, really, changed your life. With those two now, let's talk.

We were having a conversation about how passing regulations against surveillance at work is meaningless because just like all regulations, majority of companies will find ways to work around it while complying with regulations. When it became illegal to directly discriminate against race, employers found out ways to indirectly discriminate against race by putting in requirements for schooling and degrees that are just not in the reach of certain races and ethnic groups. ... but let's indulge you for a moment. I can pass all the kinds of laws against assault I want all day and you can come along and pay enough money to redefine what assault really means. Every regulation I pass is a restraint against my own freedom. I can chop my foot off as much as I want in an attempt to save my head but if someone really wanted my head, they will have it no matter how hard I try to stop it. Regulation does not help the common man at all and the rich already have help to get what they want. Regulation or no regulation.

Spivak 6y ago
So in your view regulation doesn’t stop anyone from doing what they want to do or we’re doing anyway. Doesn’t that imply that they can’t limit your freedom then? If regulations are totally ineffective why give them any mind at all?
- subhobroto 6y ago
  > If regulations are totally ineffective why give them any mind at all? Because each regulation is a fly constantly nagging at you. There's nothing stopping you from continuing to do what you were doing and if you concentrate enough, you don't even feel the flies but they are still there buzzing around and nagging at you. It's annoying as hell mate. What's one regulation that really changed your life? Hold on, we are not done yet - now think of one regulation, without which you really could have, really, changed your life. With those two now, let's talk.