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I'm having a chuckle from comments on Reddit: “It's an IPv4 address pointing directly to the camera, not so sure that there are any logs.” Wonder how many of t

by aasasd 6y ago

I'm having a chuckle from comments on Reddit: “It's an IPv4 address pointing directly to the camera, not so sure that there are any logs.” Wonder how many of the VPN-employing folks in fact use something like NordVPN and pay for it with their credit card.

dylz 6y ago
This is amusing to read because they largely/all seem to be AT&T mobile IPs, which get allocated from an absurdly sized pool with barely working geoip.
- TrowthePlow 6y ago
  Well AT&T does own an entire /8 block (12.0.0.0/8) so they certainly have plenty to choose from
  - dylz 6y ago
    I guess for clarification what I mean is mobile pools are generally heavily mixed/NATed/etc all over the place, and the reddit OP claims that they're all hidden VPNs or something due to geo - mobile IP space geo literally does not work half the time and is an absolute mess. They're almost certainly just hotspots or an LTE SIM attached to the cameras with nothing else hiding it.
verylittlemeat 6y ago
I use nordvpn that I purchased with a credit card. Before using it I would get notices from my ISP for pirating but not anymore. As far as I'm concerned it just makes me not the lowest hanging fruit and that's good enough for me. Even if they wouldn't cut off my service from those notices I consider it worth $50 a yearfor peace of mind. Plus it comes in handy for getting around some geo restrictions.
- aasasd 6y ago
  Case in point: thinking that any of this is relevant in a thread about people logging into government-setup cameras. Btw, you might want to look into what came out of this story: https://medium.com/@derek./how-is-nordvpn-unblocking-disney-6c51045dbc30 https://medium.com/@derek./how-is-nordvpn-unblocking-disney-... — it's mostly guesswork but I'm not sure how a company buys 32 million residential ips otherwise.
  - fapjacks 6y ago
    I have special insight into this situation (including both companies named within) and it is exactly as the article implies. These people are printing money on the backs of regular (unsuspecting) people, and nobody asks questions because of the amount of money involved. To be quite honest, this is what I imagine the fine line must look like, which exists between things that don't need regulation and things that do. That fine, fuzzy line of "These people are obviously up to some hinky bullshit and lying-not-lying to everybody involved".

by aasasd 6y ago

dylz 6y ago

This is amusing to read because they largely/all seem to be AT&T mobile IPs, which get allocated from an absurdly sized pool with barely working geoip.

TrowthePlow 6y ago
Well AT&T does own an entire /8 block (12.0.0.0/8) so they certainly have plenty to choose from
- dylz 6y ago
  I guess for clarification what I mean is mobile pools are generally heavily mixed/NATed/etc all over the place, and the reddit OP claims that they're all hidden VPNs or something due to geo - mobile IP space geo literally does not work half the time and is an absolute mess. They're almost certainly just hotspots or an LTE SIM attached to the cameras with nothing else hiding it.

verylittlemeat 6y ago

I use nordvpn that I purchased with a credit card. Before using it I would get notices from my ISP for pirating but not anymore. As far as I'm concerned it just makes me not the lowest hanging fruit and that's good enough for me. Even if they wouldn't cut off my service from those notices I consider it worth $50 a yearfor peace of mind. Plus it comes in handy for getting around some geo restrictions.

aasasd 6y ago
Case in point: thinking that any of this is relevant in a thread about people logging into government-setup cameras. Btw, you might want to look into what came out of this story: https://medium.com/@derek./how-is-nordvpn-unblocking-disney-6c51045dbc30 https://medium.com/@derek./how-is-nordvpn-unblocking-disney-... — it's mostly guesswork but I'm not sure how a company buys 32 million residential ips otherwise.
- fapjacks 6y ago
  I have special insight into this situation (including both companies named within) and it is exactly as the article implies. These people are printing money on the backs of regular (unsuspecting) people, and nobody asks questions because of the amount of money involved. To be quite honest, this is what I imagine the fine line must look like, which exists between things that don't need regulation and things that do. That fine, fuzzy line of "These people are obviously up to some hinky bullshit and lying-not-lying to everybody involved".