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White Supremacists Built a Website to Doxx Interracial Couples
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- xupybd 6y agoAh that sounds about right. As someone in an interracial marriage I found the picture the article painted of the site abhorrent. I was still thinking freedom of speech was important and didn't want hosting providers to step in unless clear laws were broken.
- RIMR 6y agoIf you and your partner's photos, phone numbers, home addresses, and other personal details appeared on this website, would you be making this same argument?
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- xupybd 6y agoYes I probably would. I'd be looking for legal means to shut them down. But opposed to having the site shutdown by hosting providers reacting to media pressure. I've been on the other side of this. Had articles written that caused friends to be banned from a public university. There was no due process. The articles were not correct. Legal process must be followed for society to remain just.
- bjl 6y agoYep, because harassing interracial couples is so hilarious \s.
- guevara 6y agoLike I said, I'm not commenting on whether the site is "good" or "bad" or "funny". My point is that calling it a Nazi or white supremacist site is completely disingenuous and pure bait by Vice.
- scott_s 6y agoIn what way is calling a website dedicated to harassing interacial couples white supremacist disingenuous?
- non-entity 6y agoEverything is "racebait" nowadays. Racism died in the 20th century and anytime a racist act happens now its "irony" or the victims fault.
- klyrs 6y agoCan't tell if you're serious or sarcastic. Delightful.
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- sketchyj 6y agoYou're lying. This is obviously a white supremacist site. See: One section is titled “toll paid,” and it lists women who have been in interracial relationships, and had something horrible happen to them, like death or injury.
- pay_the_toll_88 6y agoI'm curious how many White women need to be beaten, raped and killed before someone like you might acknowledge that there does exist a disparity, and that your passive tolerance (or, in many cases, active encouragement) has very real, harmful effects on our most vulnerable and impressionable people? I wonder if you would be so blasé if the reverse was true: if there was a shocking trend of lower class black women being violently assaulted by White men, and an endless stream of media and advertisements as well as social reinforcement encouraging them to pursue such relationships? I wonder if you refuse to acknowledge the trend at all, either because you are genuinely naive (perhaps wilfully) or because its implications are so damaging to your worldview that the cost exceeds the value of your blissful illusion and acceptance by your liberal peers?
- kthxbye123 6y agoCan you fill me in on the "joke" here: "The cucks refer to the white men who date women on the coal fax registry. These “men” deserve to be shamed and humiliated. Once you go black, we don’t want you back."
- xupybd 6y agoSome people find it funny to emulate the most offensive things they can think of. Often fuelled by the outrage it generates. It doesn't mean it's funny for everyone but it is a possible motivation for the site.
- groundpepper 6y agoI don't buy that some people are so naive that they can look at a website like this, the white supremacists who obviously occupy it, and think it's a good spirited joke by normal non-racist people. White supremacy is on the rise, and it's scary seeing the denial tactics make their way to Hacker News.
- xupybd 6y agoI think it's far from a good spirited joke. It's clearly gone too far and is causing real harm to real people. That's often the fall out of these 4chan esk dark humour groups. Generally these groups also pull in the genuinely hate filled as well. Also to say it's only creates for humour doesn't justify it's existence. It's does make it a very different beast than a genuine white supremacist group. It's different because these people are rage farmers. They want articles like this. They want their actions to cause outrage. They want them to be noticed. To them that's the goal. The goal is not to be exposed as a group of immature idiots causing real harm. These are like school children that carve swastikas on their desk just because they know they shouldn't.
- happytoexplain 6y ago>These are like school children that carve swastikas on their desk just because they know they shouldn't. This analogy works well for young people posting on 4chan, but if that same person creates a web platform to organize people to put swastikas on buildings, that person is almost certainly not doing this just because they know they shouldn't.
- hamax 6y agoWhat is the difference between a white supremacist and someone who acts exactly like one but ironically?
- RIMR 6y agoThe latter acts indignant when you call them a racist, while the former owns it.
- RIMR 6y agoOh please, a website that aims to shame race-mixing, even as a joke, deserves comparison to white supremacist and neo-nazi groups. Those are the groups that find "comedic value" in a site like this. It it appears to have content that directs harassment and hatred at real people, so I would think really hard if "just a joke" is really the excuse you want to make for hate speech like this.
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- bergstromm466 6y agoPlease stop normalizing racism.
- s9w 6y agoI don't think vice understands what accelerationist means in the context it was used.
- ardy42 6y ago> I don't think vice understands what accelerationist means in the context it was used. Can you clarify? The article only uses that term once, here: > including in neo-Nazi Discord servers and accelerationist Telegram channels It seems like accelerationism is a concept used some of the most extreme white supremacist circles: https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/11/11/20882005/accelerationism-white-supremacy-christchurch https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/11/11/20882005/accele...: > It’s called “accelerationism,” and it rests on the idea that Western governments are irreparably corrupt. As a result, the best thing white supremacists can do is accelerate their demise by sowing chaos and creating political tension. Accelerationist ideas have been cited in mass shooters’ manifestos — explicitly, in the case of the New Zealand killer — and are frequently referenced in white supremacist web forums and chat rooms.
- blaser-waffle 6y agoThe definition provided at the end is basically correct. The idea behind Marxism is that we're in an intermediate phase, before moving to Socialism, and then Communism. Guys like Stalin and Mao wanted to push that forward, quickly, and accelerate the transition to some sort of glorious workers paradise. Accelerationism is a right-wing spin on that, where they decry the modern world as unstable and due to collapse -- hence it's popularity with the militia/prepper types. Just like with Communist Great Leap Forward, the Accelerationism is designed to, you know, accelerate that collapse, the rationale being that the sooner it collapses, the sooner it can be rebuilt. And if there is a rebuilding, it can be rebuilt the way you want it, with an emphasis on authoritarianism, and a lot of implied discrimination, libertarianism, Christian Dominion, etc. Intellectually it's tied to the "Dark Enlightenment" pablum that's pushed by a handful of Alt-Right types, most notably Peter Thiel, but it's adherents are generally the alt-right 8chan-ner / militia types. Accelerationism's focus on the collapse of the US Government and breakdown into smaller ethnic and social nations is VERY similar to Dugin's "Foundation of Geopolitics"[1], and it's likely that foreign propaganda has embraced Accelerationism as a way to destabilize the US Government. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
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- smitty1e 6y agoA healthy skepticism is appropriate.
- joyj2nd 6y agoLink or it didn't happen