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I was really looking forward to the court challenges on this one, and am a bit disappointed the county caved. Bottom line, we have local officials making decre

by rsj_hn 6y ago

I was really looking forward to the court challenges on this one, and am a bit disappointed the county caved. Bottom line, we have local officials making decrees and proclamations with no legislative basis -- often the legislature is not even in session as one proclamation is made after another -- and they are curtailing things like right to assemble, right to hold religious services, and interstate commerce. This needs court challenges all across the country, and unfortunately only the wealthy can afford a big legal fight. Most of them can easily hide in luxurious compounds and aren't impacted nearly as much as those dependent on a regular income, so Elon Musk was doing a public service by openly challenging these decrees and daring someone to arrest him for a crime that doesn't actually exist in any state legal code.

ardy42 6y ago
> and am a bit disappointed the county caved. I'm not sure that it did. It seems like their plan all along was for the factory to open next week: > Monday. Newsom also said the developing agreement between the county and Tesla had been for the plant to reopen next week. It was not clear why Musk was unsatisfied with the prospect of even a short delay in the plant’s reopening. > County officials also were envisioning allowing the plant to reopen soon before Musk made his abrupt move. > Earlier Tuesday, Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty, whose district includes Tesla’s Fremont plant, said he was “confident” that health officials and Tesla would have reached a plan to have the plant reopen with a May 18 target date, according to Shawn Wilson, his chief of staff.
woofyman 6y ago
> Most of them can easily hide in luxurious compounds and aren't impacted nearly as much as those dependent on a regular income So they want other people to risk their lives to make more billions for them.
- TomMarius 6y ago
  You know they could walk out any day and start earning the billions if they really have the ability? We are not talking about low income people.
101404 6y ago
And large part of the population seems all too willing to just follow these local officials and blindly believe anything they say. And those who dare to challenge them get insulted.
- callalex 6y ago
  If you want to act in an anti-social manner, don’t be surprised when you are socially ostracized.
  - 101404 6y ago
    What is "anti social" about defending human rights against those who think they stand above them?
    - netsharc 6y ago
      Gotta love assholes thinking they know better than scientists, and then claiming "we're defending human rights!". Using this Asimov quote is surely a cliché, but "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'". Feel free to scream that you're right and I'm wrong...
      - 101404 6y ago
        What scientists? Scientists had said is okay to open. The State government said it's okay to open. Only some local dude didn't want to. And thank you for calling me an "asshole".
  - codeddesign 6y ago
    In other words: go against the grain and you’ll be down voted to oblivion. Unfortunately and sadly, widely differing opinions are not tolerated too much on HN.

by rsj_hn 6y ago

ardy42 6y ago

> and am a bit disappointed the county caved. I'm not sure that it did. It seems like their plan all along was for the factory to open next week: > Monday. Newsom also said the developing agreement between the county and Tesla had been for the plant to reopen next week. It was not clear why Musk was unsatisfied with the prospect of even a short delay in the plant’s reopening. > County officials also were envisioning allowing the plant to reopen soon before Musk made his abrupt move. > Earlier Tuesday, Alameda County Supervisor Scott Haggerty, whose district includes Tesla’s Fremont plant, said he was “confident” that health officials and Tesla would have reached a plan to have the plant reopen with a May 18 target date, according to Shawn Wilson, his chief of staff.

woofyman 6y ago

> Most of them can easily hide in luxurious compounds and aren't impacted nearly as much as those dependent on a regular income So they want other people to risk their lives to make more billions for them.

TomMarius 6y ago
You know they could walk out any day and start earning the billions if they really have the ability? We are not talking about low income people.

101404 6y ago

And large part of the population seems all too willing to just follow these local officials and blindly believe anything they say. And those who dare to challenge them get insulted.

callalex 6y ago
If you want to act in an anti-social manner, don’t be surprised when you are socially ostracized.
- 101404 6y ago
  What is "anti social" about defending human rights against those who think they stand above them?
  - netsharc 6y ago
    Gotta love assholes thinking they know better than scientists, and then claiming "we're defending human rights!". Using this Asimov quote is surely a cliché, but "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'". Feel free to scream that you're right and I'm wrong...
    - 101404 6y ago
      What scientists? Scientists had said is okay to open. The State government said it's okay to open. Only some local dude didn't want to. And thank you for calling me an "asshole".
- codeddesign 6y ago
  In other words: go against the grain and you’ll be down voted to oblivion. Unfortunately and sadly, widely differing opinions are not tolerated too much on HN.