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Would you advise them to leave and risk not being able to put food on the table if they can't find another position? If there's little to no opportunity for lat

Would you advise them to leave and risk not being able to put food on the table if they can't find another position? If there's little to no opportunity for lateral movement in their job market right now?

_curious_ 6y ago
I would advise them to do what they felt was in their net best interest. Either way, they are making a conscious choice - a choice to stay and continue subjecting themselves to such treatment or a choice to leave and assume the risk. Again, would you advise them to stay and subject themselves to they type of treatment they did not agree with?
- Avicebron 6y ago
  By this time I can't tell if you're deliberately misunderstanding reality to virtue signal some sort of privilege? But I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Vulnerable populations can have their employment opportunities gamed by powerful groups where they are essentially enslaved by their reliance on their paycheck to support their family, food, housing, etc. I don't understand why this doesn't register with you.
  - _curious_ 6y ago
    Thank you for giving me the benefit of doubt...I don't know what "virtue signal some sort of privilege" means? Does that make me dumb? Ignorant? Privileged? It could! "Vulnerable populations can have their employment opportunities gamed by powerful groups where they are essentially enslaved by their reliance on their paycheck to support their family, food, housing, etc. I don't understand why this doesn't register with you." Who in this article falls under your judgement of "vulnerable population"?
    - Avicebron 6y ago
      "virtue signal some sort of privilege" - I'm referring to a particular "let them eat cake" sentiment I'm detecting by your posts. An apt analogy because it was a signal of her misunderstanding of the lower classes food situation. "vulnerable populations" - people who are unable to quickly and efficiently move either laterally or vertically, in whatever industry they are in, such that they run real risk of losing food or shelter.
      - _curious_ 6y ago
        "virtue signal some sort of privilege" - I'm referring to a particular "let them eat cake" sentiment I'm detecting by your posts. An apt analogy because it was a signal of her misunderstanding of the lower classes food situation. Still confused…what does "virtue signal some sort of privilege" actually mean? Do you have some sort of privileged information on the matter? "vulnerable populations" - people who are unable to quickly and efficiently move either laterally or vertically, in whatever industry they are in, such that they run real risk of losing food or shelter. Under your definition here, what constitutes “quickly and efficiently”? Who are you to judge and label someone as being vulnerable - or not - based on that answer?
        evilolive 6y ago
        In a nutshell he says : - from your tone it sounds that you have never been faced with such hardships and decisions to make. - "quickly and efficiently" to me would be anything that would allow you to pay the next bills. Esp. since 78% of american workers live paycheck to paycheck with no cushion to absorb downtime looking for new work. I'm detecting a bit of dishonesty (trolling?) in your answers too.
        _curious_ 6y ago
        Is it dishonest to ask questions, probe, push-back, challenge, disagree, whatever you want to call it? I'm respectfully inquiring as to what another human thinks (and that human was not you unless you speak for them?).

_curious_ 6y ago

I would advise them to do what they felt was in their net best interest. Either way, they are making a conscious choice - a choice to stay and continue subjecting themselves to such treatment or a choice to leave and assume the risk. Again, would you advise them to stay and subject themselves to they type of treatment they did not agree with?

Avicebron 6y ago
By this time I can't tell if you're deliberately misunderstanding reality to virtue signal some sort of privilege? But I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Vulnerable populations can have their employment opportunities gamed by powerful groups where they are essentially enslaved by their reliance on their paycheck to support their family, food, housing, etc. I don't understand why this doesn't register with you.
- _curious_ 6y ago
  Thank you for giving me the benefit of doubt...I don't know what "virtue signal some sort of privilege" means? Does that make me dumb? Ignorant? Privileged? It could! "Vulnerable populations can have their employment opportunities gamed by powerful groups where they are essentially enslaved by their reliance on their paycheck to support their family, food, housing, etc. I don't understand why this doesn't register with you." Who in this article falls under your judgement of "vulnerable population"?
  - Avicebron 6y ago
    "virtue signal some sort of privilege" - I'm referring to a particular "let them eat cake" sentiment I'm detecting by your posts. An apt analogy because it was a signal of her misunderstanding of the lower classes food situation. "vulnerable populations" - people who are unable to quickly and efficiently move either laterally or vertically, in whatever industry they are in, such that they run real risk of losing food or shelter.
    - _curious_ 6y ago
      "virtue signal some sort of privilege" - I'm referring to a particular "let them eat cake" sentiment I'm detecting by your posts. An apt analogy because it was a signal of her misunderstanding of the lower classes food situation. Still confused…what does "virtue signal some sort of privilege" actually mean? Do you have some sort of privileged information on the matter? "vulnerable populations" - people who are unable to quickly and efficiently move either laterally or vertically, in whatever industry they are in, such that they run real risk of losing food or shelter. Under your definition here, what constitutes “quickly and efficiently”? Who are you to judge and label someone as being vulnerable - or not - based on that answer?
      - evilolive 6y ago
        In a nutshell he says : - from your tone it sounds that you have never been faced with such hardships and decisions to make. - "quickly and efficiently" to me would be anything that would allow you to pay the next bills. Esp. since 78% of american workers live paycheck to paycheck with no cushion to absorb downtime looking for new work. I'm detecting a bit of dishonesty (trolling?) in your answers too.
        _curious_ 6y ago
        Is it dishonest to ask questions, probe, push-back, challenge, disagree, whatever you want to call it? I'm respectfully inquiring as to what another human thinks (and that human was not you unless you speak for them?).