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That's illegal. You want me to opt-out in order to stop spamming me? Nope. I will never click a link in some spam mail I receive. Even if you claim that your s

by 101404 6y ago

That's illegal. You want me to opt-out in order to stop spamming me? Nope. I will never click a link in some spam mail I receive. Even if you claim that your service is "legitimate". If you want to be allowed to email me, you must often a double opt-in. And that is a click to confirm the address.

JoshTriplett 6y ago
That's not what I was suggesting at all. If your service actually sends people emails (other than, say, password resets), then you still need them to follow a "verify your email" link before sending them mails other than the single "welcome" message containing that link. I'm just saying that you don't need to wait for email verification before letting people make and use an account, as long as you don't send them any more emails beyond the welcome message. Many services don't send regular emails, and only ask for an email so that 1) everyone has a unique identifier without having to make up a unique username, and 2) they can do password resets. For such services, the procedure above makes sense to reduce friction.
- abiogenesis 6y ago
  I still wouldn't want someone else to be able to register for some service using my email. What happens if I want to use the same service in the future? That happens to me all the time as I have a very generic email address (one of the first users of Gmail). Someone seems to have registered to Facebook with my email and now I can't disassociate it. People searching me by my email address on Facebook end up with that random guy.
  - cortesoft 6y ago
    Shouldn't you be able to request a password reset, which would send an email to you and then you would delete it?
    - abiogenesis 6y ago
      Already tried that. It asks me that other person's private information (such as date of birth).
cortesoft 6y ago
How am I going to send you an email asking you to click to confirm if I have to confirm your email before I send you an email?

by 101404 6y ago

JoshTriplett 6y ago

That's not what I was suggesting at all. If your service actually sends people emails (other than, say, password resets), then you still need them to follow a "verify your email" link before sending them mails other than the single "welcome" message containing that link. I'm just saying that you don't need to wait for email verification before letting people make and use an account, as long as you don't send them any more emails beyond the welcome message. Many services don't send regular emails, and only ask for an email so that 1) everyone has a unique identifier without having to make up a unique username, and 2) they can do password resets. For such services, the procedure above makes sense to reduce friction.

abiogenesis 6y ago
I still wouldn't want someone else to be able to register for some service using my email. What happens if I want to use the same service in the future? That happens to me all the time as I have a very generic email address (one of the first users of Gmail). Someone seems to have registered to Facebook with my email and now I can't disassociate it. People searching me by my email address on Facebook end up with that random guy.
- cortesoft 6y ago
  Shouldn't you be able to request a password reset, which would send an email to you and then you would delete it?
  - abiogenesis 6y ago
    Already tried that. It asks me that other person's private information (such as date of birth).

cortesoft 6y ago

How am I going to send you an email asking you to click to confirm if I have to confirm your email before I send you an email?