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Have an example of this? Would be interesting to see it.

09bjb 6y ago
Seconded.
danso 6y ago
BuzzFeed News had a big feature and analysis here: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/spies-in-the-skies https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/spies-in-t...
ikeyany 6y ago
This isn't about drones, but here is an article from last year about the DoD using surveillance balloons that use radar from 65,000 ft to generate high-res images of the ground: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-testing-surveillance-balloons-2019-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-testing-survei...
- jeffbee 6y ago
  It's so funny how you can whip up conspiracy theories just by adding superfluous adjectives. Instead of just saying "radar" you say "wireless radar device", as if prior radars used wires, and then you say it creates "high-resolution images using radio pulses", as if this did not apply to every radar ever built. We have been using aircraft to track vehicles since the invention of aircraft. The people and their government have a legitimate interest in doing so. Nobody has a right to go about in a vehicle anonymously and privately. https://www.modbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/bee-investigator/xqxuin/picture144963059/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/JBL%20Speed%20Sign%201 https://www.modbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/bee-inv...
  - ikeyany 6y ago
    Where did I say there was no legitimate interest to do this? I am in agreement with you in saying this surveillance is not new and is not a conspiracy.
    - jjoonathan 6y ago
      It's possible for something to be not new and not a conspiracy but also not good and not right, all at the same time.
      - ikeyany 6y ago
        Then it should have been posted in technology, security, or news subreddits.
  - jjoonathan 6y ago
    We shouldn't expect the centuries old philosophical/legal/procedural balance we've crafted between investigatory powers and personal rights to remain valid and correct in the face of a 99.999% decrease in the cost of surveillance and corresponding explosion in scope. Naturally, authorities didn't object to the technological expansion of their power. It's up to us to figure out if/when/how to push back. Step zero is admitting that it actually happened, admitting that we should reset our heuristics, and calling out the ludicrous argument "this is how it's always been," because, well it isn't.
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Datenstrom 6y ago
Not a map but it being done openly in Baltimore. https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-police-spy-plane-lawsuit-20200424-2ncxogcqr5akjjfd2fvaotvnby-story.html https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-c...
fossuser 6y ago
This book is the best source on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/0544972007 https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/05449...
jmwilson 6y ago
There are twitter bot accounts that post live when they detect aircraft flying in circles: @SkyCirclesSF @SkyCirclesLA @SkyCirclesDC
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Seconded.

BuzzFeed News had a big feature and analysis here: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/spies-in-the-skies https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/spies-in-t...

ikeyany 6y ago

This isn't about drones, but here is an article from last year about the DoD using surveillance balloons that use radar from 65,000 ft to generate high-res images of the ground: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-testing-surveillance-balloons-2019-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-testing-survei...

jeffbee 6y ago
It's so funny how you can whip up conspiracy theories just by adding superfluous adjectives. Instead of just saying "radar" you say "wireless radar device", as if prior radars used wires, and then you say it creates "high-resolution images using radio pulses", as if this did not apply to every radar ever built. We have been using aircraft to track vehicles since the invention of aircraft. The people and their government have a legitimate interest in doing so. Nobody has a right to go about in a vehicle anonymously and privately. https://www.modbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/bee-investigator/xqxuin/picture144963059/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/JBL%20Speed%20Sign%201 https://www.modbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/bee-inv...
- ikeyany 6y ago
  Where did I say there was no legitimate interest to do this? I am in agreement with you in saying this surveillance is not new and is not a conspiracy.
  - jjoonathan 6y ago
    It's possible for something to be not new and not a conspiracy but also not good and not right, all at the same time.
    - ikeyany 6y ago
      Then it should have been posted in technology, security, or news subreddits.
- jjoonathan 6y ago
  We shouldn't expect the centuries old philosophical/legal/procedural balance we've crafted between investigatory powers and personal rights to remain valid and correct in the face of a 99.999% decrease in the cost of surveillance and corresponding explosion in scope. Naturally, authorities didn't object to the technological expansion of their power. It's up to us to figure out if/when/how to push back. Step zero is admitting that it actually happened, admitting that we should reset our heuristics, and calling out the ludicrous argument "this is how it's always been," because, well it isn't.
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Datenstrom 6y ago

Not a map but it being done openly in Baltimore. https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-police-spy-plane-lawsuit-20200424-2ncxogcqr5akjjfd2fvaotvnby-story.html https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-c...

fossuser 6y ago

This book is the best source on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/0544972007 https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Sky-Secret-Gorgon-Stare/dp/05449...

jmwilson 6y ago

There are twitter bot accounts that post live when they detect aircraft flying in circles: @SkyCirclesSF @SkyCirclesLA @SkyCirclesDC

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