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Which is why the beaches & parks should be open to the public... Edit: The down votes only supports what I have suspected, many on HN are authoritarian & shoul

Which is why the beaches & parks should be open to the public... Edit: The down votes only supports what I have suspected, many on HN are authoritarian & should not be in positions of power. This is why many in the public don't trust you or your "Science", which are mainly buggy software models built on a tower of assumptions, enforced (ahem peer reviewed) by a priesthood of like-minded fools. People do support empiricism & the humility of knowing there are unknown unknowns in any model

kerkeslager 6y ago
There are some good reasons that beaches and parks should be open to the public. There are also good reasons that beaches and parks should not be open to the public. This study is not one of those reasons. The conclusion of this study is not one of those reasons.
- briantakita 6y ago
  The study recommends supplementation, which could come from sunlight & being outdoors, as sunlight increases vitamin d in the body. Getting out of the house by going to public parks or the beach is one way of getting sunlight & vitamin d...
  - kerkeslager 6y ago
    Nobody was confused about what you've clarified. The study is not remotely conclusive. The methods are indirect, the controls are weak, and the correlation model is misleading. Recommendations based on this study can and should be ignored, because this study doesn't prove anything. The only thing that should be done with this data, is using it to get funding for a better-designed study. To the credit of the scientists involved, I think that was probably their intent.
    - briantakita 6y ago
      Yet we cite buggy & non-deterministic computer models to justify mass social & economic disruption. Funny these double standards... I suppose, by your standards, that a healthy immune system is not yet "proven" to have any effect on Covid-19. Perhaps we don't have enough data to make a determination one way or another? Yet there's enough data to determine that we need heavy-handed government policy to lock everything down. Strange...
jshevek 6y ago
In your edit, you jump to unsubstantiated speculation about the motivation of others. There are many possible explanations.
- briantakita 6y ago
  Think in terms of perception, possibility, & risk management. Here's one possibility. The usage of buggy, non stoichiometric, & non empirical models & questionable data collection led to the unstantiated fear mongering leading to the application of public policy which resulted in social & economic disruption. The politically connected benefited from policy while independent businesses were harmed.
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kerkeslager 6y ago

There are some good reasons that beaches and parks should be open to the public. There are also good reasons that beaches and parks should not be open to the public. This study is not one of those reasons. The conclusion of this study is not one of those reasons.

briantakita 6y ago
The study recommends supplementation, which could come from sunlight & being outdoors, as sunlight increases vitamin d in the body. Getting out of the house by going to public parks or the beach is one way of getting sunlight & vitamin d...
- kerkeslager 6y ago
  Nobody was confused about what you've clarified. The study is not remotely conclusive. The methods are indirect, the controls are weak, and the correlation model is misleading. Recommendations based on this study can and should be ignored, because this study doesn't prove anything. The only thing that should be done with this data, is using it to get funding for a better-designed study. To the credit of the scientists involved, I think that was probably their intent.
  - briantakita 6y ago
    Yet we cite buggy & non-deterministic computer models to justify mass social & economic disruption. Funny these double standards... I suppose, by your standards, that a healthy immune system is not yet "proven" to have any effect on Covid-19. Perhaps we don't have enough data to make a determination one way or another? Yet there's enough data to determine that we need heavy-handed government policy to lock everything down. Strange...

jshevek 6y ago

In your edit, you jump to unsubstantiated speculation about the motivation of others. There are many possible explanations.

briantakita 6y ago
Think in terms of perception, possibility, & risk management. Here's one possibility. The usage of buggy, non stoichiometric, & non empirical models & questionable data collection led to the unstantiated fear mongering leading to the application of public policy which resulted in social & economic disruption. The politically connected benefited from policy while independent businesses were harmed.
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