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These things always have a grain of truth to them, in that they describe some places some of the time, but I also think there's so many things going on in any g
by 0d9eooo 6y ago
These things always have a grain of truth to them, in that they describe some places some of the time, but I also think there's so many things going on in any given place it's hard to generalize.
A well-run organization will hire the right people, and then foster their development in such a way that they are productive, happy, and grow, and will compensate them sufficiently. If any of those things break down, you can run into any number of problems, and they won't necessarily take the form that seems obvious at first.
I've seen organizations take very competent people and ruin their morale and shunt them into projects that were really detrimental to them getting out, in ways that aren't obvious at the time. Or weird organizational dynamics cause changes over time that make someone look bad in ways that aren't their own fault.
There's just weird things that happen that don't simplify to simple models of "talent that is completely independent of environment and perfectly visible."
- artsyca 6y agoHave you ever personally had a long term career in a corporation that somehow managed the escape velocity to actually become something other than typical? i.e. typically toxic and bound to these laws?
- CydeWeys 6y agoWhat? You think all employees will inevitably hate working at every company if they stay awhile?
- artsyca 6y agoThere are no great companies left and everyone of any worth evaporates and ends up "working for themselves" and employee mentality has made most corporations into dystopian surveillance states where management rules by force of mediocrity so the ones that stay are happy to wallow in their entitlements as long as they're free to dress in rags and can afford their mortgage payments yea
- Balero 6y agoOut of interest, which companies do you think were great?
- artsyca 6y agoSterling Cooper Draper Pryce, the Medici, Nintendo and Apple in the early days, a lot of Canadian and probably American banks in the sixties and seventies and eighties.. Airlines before the economy model.. Lots of iconic hotels and restaurants, Ma Bell.. all kinds of companies have been great it's just that as people we think we're above it all somehow and our attitudes have brought us to a point where it's understood we're only trading time for money and we're selling ourselves short at every turn and all our corporations are merging into one megalocorp where it's just mediocrity and toxicity and even this forum is nothing but an echo chamber of the neurosis Another problem is that CEO's don't understand what they're really in it for -- they're not in it for the mind state that comes with being a leader but only for the profits they can extract from the bargain it's obvious by their actions and their dress In short a company that has high alignment and high autonomy the two are not mutually exclusive and indeed form the basis of what I'd call the American Way
- morelisp 6y ago> Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce What?
- switch007 6y agoSterling Cooper Draper Pryce is the name of a fictional advertising agency in the TV series "Mad Men", in case anyone is confused by this confusion
- hcknwscommenter 6y agoA fictional advertising firm from the television series "Mad Men." A "great" place for heterosexual men in suits to work, a not-so-great place for anyone else.
- MattGaiser 6y agoNo, but they will eventually become overburdened with ever more rules, regulations, and lose the cohesive team which existed at the beginning.
- cpncrunch 6y agoI work for myself, but I have quite a few friends who have worked for large companies for 10-20 years. Some companies just know how to treat their employees well, and they benefit from that.
- castratikron 6y agoYes but only due to near 100% turnover of management and toxic coworkers in a short amount of time. It was weird the day I realized I was essentially working at a different job.