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TBH these managers probably don't have work life balance, spend 12-16 hours a day on work, probably less than 4 are productive, and believe their subordinates a

TBH these managers probably don't have work life balance, spend 12-16 hours a day on work, probably less than 4 are productive, and believe their subordinates and ingrates if they don't share the same "devotion" that they do, regardless of ability to complete the assigned job/task.

mc32 6y ago
And they probably pore over metrics more than anything else and prepare reporting based on a bunch of old queries and automated reports package it and send it off. They might also have chats with subordinates about those metrics and at the end think “what a good boy/girl am I!”
gilrain 6y ago
Maybe. We don't know what they're doing at their desks or away from the office, because they don't get surveiled like the plebs. Any manager who feels the need to peek over the shoulders of their workers should submit to the same.
- subhobroto 6y ago
  > Any manager who feels the need to peek over the shoulders of their workers should submit to the same. Sounds like a "Tit for tat". Why? If I cut your finger off and stabbed you in your kidney, would it change your personal situation if you did the same? If your immediate boss calls you every 30 minutes you are away from work, you want to do the same? That's madness! There is no "poor management". What are these uneducated decision makers even doing at your place of work? There's always a boss. The boss is paying for the behavior they want to see. Now if you argue the ultimate boss is clueless, then, what are you even doing there? You might want to tell yourself that your immediate boss who calls you every 30 minutes you are away from work is just ineffective, but if he was not delivering on what his boss wanted from him, he would be gone. "Tit for tat" is a great children's activity. Adults are not children. If your boss behaves like a child it's time to have a conversation. Depending on your specific situation that conversation might very well be with a new company.

mc32 6y ago

And they probably pore over metrics more than anything else and prepare reporting based on a bunch of old queries and automated reports package it and send it off. They might also have chats with subordinates about those metrics and at the end think “what a good boy/girl am I!”

gilrain 6y ago

Maybe. We don't know what they're doing at their desks or away from the office, because they don't get surveiled like the plebs. Any manager who feels the need to peek over the shoulders of their workers should submit to the same.

subhobroto 6y ago
> Any manager who feels the need to peek over the shoulders of their workers should submit to the same. Sounds like a "Tit for tat". Why? If I cut your finger off and stabbed you in your kidney, would it change your personal situation if you did the same? If your immediate boss calls you every 30 minutes you are away from work, you want to do the same? That's madness! There is no "poor management". What are these uneducated decision makers even doing at your place of work? There's always a boss. The boss is paying for the behavior they want to see. Now if you argue the ultimate boss is clueless, then, what are you even doing there? You might want to tell yourself that your immediate boss who calls you every 30 minutes you are away from work is just ineffective, but if he was not delivering on what his boss wanted from him, he would be gone. "Tit for tat" is a great children's activity. Adults are not children. If your boss behaves like a child it's time to have a conversation. Depending on your specific situation that conversation might very well be with a new company.