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"SQL doesn't"... you are correct, SQL can't figure out how much tax you need to pay across 9 tax jurisdictions. SQL can't tell me the best way for my warehouse

"SQL doesn't"... you are correct, SQL can't figure out how much tax you need to pay across 9 tax jurisdictions. SQL can't tell me the best way for my warehouse picking robots to move across the floor based on the layout of the warehouse and what others products are being picked right this second plus over the next few minutes. The list is really endless of what SAP will do and SQL won't. It would take decades to replicate what SAP does.

SamuelAdams 6y ago
I mean I guess you can throw all that functionality in a bunch of triggers but that would slow down your database to a crawl every time one record updated.
- NDizzle 6y ago
  Have the triggers publish to service broker!
  - youdonthavekids 6y ago
    Brain dead response.
    - crimsonalucard 6y ago
      shut the hell up.
- youdonthavekids 6y ago
  TO rebuild SAP's manufacturing and finance capabilities into your own system would take many many years and cost large sums of money, you are then stuck supporting a custom solution forever and you'll be forever behind your competitors, your industry trends and whatever new tax or other legislation that needs adding to you system. This isn't nodejs and MySQL mate.
  - crimsonalucard 6y ago
    >TO rebuild SAP's manufacturing and finance capabilities into your own system would take many many years and cost large sums of money, you are then stuck supporting a custom solution forever and you'll be forever behind your competitors, your industry trends and whatever new tax or other legislation that needs adding to you system. I feel you build ERP systems. I feel that you're just trying to defend a life long career of building useless redundant systems. ERP is just a fancy name for some business software app. That's all man. We're done.
    - youdonthavekids 6y ago
      I used to implement ERP systems. I don't anymore. SAP released new IFRS tax compliance features last year to match the latest government regulations; they then gave this is over 4000 customers for free. It cost SAP around 1.2 million EURO to build, test and roll out. Are you saying that those 4000 customers (companies) should have just built their own tax compliance finance systems? That would have cost 4000 * 1.2 million which would be a total economic spend of four billion eight hundred million... how about you put your ego on the shelf and listen to other people? You're advocating building massive software applications over using what's already available and you're advocating that all companies do this... you completely ignored my argument and you have no idea what you're talking about. Just because you write crappy webapps in JS that doesn't mean you understand the software market at all.
      - crimsonalucard 6y ago
        >You're advocating building massive software applications over using what's already available When did I advocate this? You're pulling statements out of your ass. >Are you saying that those 4000 customers (companies) should have just built their own tax compliance finance systems? Let's kick that pea sized brain into gear. What the hell do you think the answer is to this question? The answer is NO. >That would have cost 4000 * 1.2 million which would be a total economic spend of four billion eight hundred million... how about you put your ego on the shelf and listen to other people? There's your ludicrous and garbage logic. Who on the face of the fucking earth would think this? It's not garbage logic or ludicrous. What you're doing here is crafting an insult and an attack and directing it at me. Let's put it this way. I don't like you I don't want to communicate with you because you are a huge fucking ass hole.
crimsonalucard 6y ago
Sounds like SAP does custom App building. Do they use a custom underlying database technology as well? Would it be equivalent to contracting some software system to a a company that would build the system using SQL?
- youdonthavekids 6y ago
  I can't even grasp how you can be so far off the mark. I kind of assumed most people on HN would understand large software platforms and how rolling your own is often not a worthwhile investment. Maybe you should just create your own IDE when you want to write new code or maybe develop our own version of Word when you want to write a letter. How about develop your own email system too? As for the database, traditionally it would run on Oracle with connectors for various other DBs but recently there has been a push towards the HANA in-memory DB mainly to push oracle out of large accounts I think.
  - crimsonalucard 6y ago
    >I can't even grasp how you can be so far off the mark. I kind of assumed most people on HN would understand large software platforms and how rolling your own is often not a worthwhile investment. Man I'm so stupid. I don't know how to be intelligent like you. Maybe I should write the whole thing in assembly language. Aside from the sarcasm above can you not grasp how your post is insulting? Have you dealt with people before? Are you human? If you are human are you mentally disabled? Let me put it this way, obviously I wasn't implying anything you said. I don't even know what ERP is, I haven't even touched it before. My initial post was to find out more, and my next post was to summarize what I thought it was based off the that persons response, but ass holes like you with your superiority complex have to write bullshit answers like this. Don't bother, nobody cares for your drivel.
    - youdonthavekids 6y ago
      You're an idiot and you have no interest in changing that.

SamuelAdams 6y ago

I mean I guess you can throw all that functionality in a bunch of triggers but that would slow down your database to a crawl every time one record updated.

NDizzle 6y ago
Have the triggers publish to service broker!
- youdonthavekids 6y ago
  Brain dead response.
  - crimsonalucard 6y ago
    shut the hell up.
youdonthavekids 6y ago
TO rebuild SAP's manufacturing and finance capabilities into your own system would take many many years and cost large sums of money, you are then stuck supporting a custom solution forever and you'll be forever behind your competitors, your industry trends and whatever new tax or other legislation that needs adding to you system. This isn't nodejs and MySQL mate.
- crimsonalucard 6y ago
  >TO rebuild SAP's manufacturing and finance capabilities into your own system would take many many years and cost large sums of money, you are then stuck supporting a custom solution forever and you'll be forever behind your competitors, your industry trends and whatever new tax or other legislation that needs adding to you system. I feel you build ERP systems. I feel that you're just trying to defend a life long career of building useless redundant systems. ERP is just a fancy name for some business software app. That's all man. We're done.
  - youdonthavekids 6y ago
    I used to implement ERP systems. I don't anymore. SAP released new IFRS tax compliance features last year to match the latest government regulations; they then gave this is over 4000 customers for free. It cost SAP around 1.2 million EURO to build, test and roll out. Are you saying that those 4000 customers (companies) should have just built their own tax compliance finance systems? That would have cost 4000 * 1.2 million which would be a total economic spend of four billion eight hundred million... how about you put your ego on the shelf and listen to other people? You're advocating building massive software applications over using what's already available and you're advocating that all companies do this... you completely ignored my argument and you have no idea what you're talking about. Just because you write crappy webapps in JS that doesn't mean you understand the software market at all.
    - crimsonalucard 6y ago
      >You're advocating building massive software applications over using what's already available When did I advocate this? You're pulling statements out of your ass. >Are you saying that those 4000 customers (companies) should have just built their own tax compliance finance systems? Let's kick that pea sized brain into gear. What the hell do you think the answer is to this question? The answer is NO. >That would have cost 4000 * 1.2 million which would be a total economic spend of four billion eight hundred million... how about you put your ego on the shelf and listen to other people? There's your ludicrous and garbage logic. Who on the face of the fucking earth would think this? It's not garbage logic or ludicrous. What you're doing here is crafting an insult and an attack and directing it at me. Let's put it this way. I don't like you I don't want to communicate with you because you are a huge fucking ass hole.

crimsonalucard 6y ago

Sounds like SAP does custom App building. Do they use a custom underlying database technology as well? Would it be equivalent to contracting some software system to a a company that would build the system using SQL?

youdonthavekids 6y ago
I can't even grasp how you can be so far off the mark. I kind of assumed most people on HN would understand large software platforms and how rolling your own is often not a worthwhile investment. Maybe you should just create your own IDE when you want to write new code or maybe develop our own version of Word when you want to write a letter. How about develop your own email system too? As for the database, traditionally it would run on Oracle with connectors for various other DBs but recently there has been a push towards the HANA in-memory DB mainly to push oracle out of large accounts I think.
- crimsonalucard 6y ago
  >I can't even grasp how you can be so far off the mark. I kind of assumed most people on HN would understand large software platforms and how rolling your own is often not a worthwhile investment. Man I'm so stupid. I don't know how to be intelligent like you. Maybe I should write the whole thing in assembly language. Aside from the sarcasm above can you not grasp how your post is insulting? Have you dealt with people before? Are you human? If you are human are you mentally disabled? Let me put it this way, obviously I wasn't implying anything you said. I don't even know what ERP is, I haven't even touched it before. My initial post was to find out more, and my next post was to summarize what I thought it was based off the that persons response, but ass holes like you with your superiority complex have to write bullshit answers like this. Don't bother, nobody cares for your drivel.
  - youdonthavekids 6y ago
    You're an idiot and you have no interest in changing that.