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Unrelated, but I could have sworn foxnews.com domain was shadow banned on HN? Not trying to troll at all, just honestly thought so.

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symplee 6y ago
Not sure if it's a matter of the overall submission count that's giving this impression, but in the last year, users submitted: 6,612 articles from nytimes.com [0] 91 articles from foxnews.com [1] [0] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=true&query=nytimes.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru... [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=false&query=foxnews.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=fal...
- Zenbit_UX 6y ago
  The way it should be, only one of those is a news site and it's not the one with the word news in its name.
  - FriendlyNormie 6y ago
    Die in a gruesome car accident.
  - BenjiWiebe 6y ago
    I like to tell people they are mispronouncing Fox News..... "It's pronounced faux news."
  - duncan_bayne 6y ago
    The NY Times doesn't have a stellar track record either: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_controversies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_controver... Although I would much rather them than Fox if forced to choose. (As it is, I follow neither).
  - CapricornNoble 6y ago
    NYT produces plenty of "fake news" and biased hypocritical trash. All of the big media outlets are flaming dumpster fires, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzVzG_6jsZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzVzG_6jsZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v18b5ip95Es https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v18b5ip95Es https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewXzRxRen0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewXzRxRen0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfxHG6yM5Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfxHG6yM5Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIGH7J5CLtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIGH7J5CLtQ There's been a few occasions where I've found an interesting article on Fox News and I won't share or link it here or on Reddit, because I know that the bias is so strong against Fox as an organization that few people would consume the content with an open mind. So I go and track down another outlet covering the same story and link that instead. I'm sure other members here do the same sort of self-censorship, essentially. That's part of why you'll see 6000 submissions from NYT and only 90 from Fox.
    - theonething 6y ago
      > So I go and track down another outlet covering the same story and link that instead. That's exactly what I do on Reddit. I haven't had occasion to share a Fox News link here, but I think I would do it because I trust this place more to make judgements based on the content of the article.
brokencode 6y ago
I think the content Fox News produces is so much lower quality than other sources that there just isn’t any reason to post a story from them.
- TaylorAlexander 6y ago
  It depends on the subject. Sometimes it’s fine. I browse the headlines on CNN and Fox regularly just to understand what both conservatives and liberals are saying. Some Fox stuff is bad, some isn’t.
  - freehunter 6y ago
    Outside of their opinion articles, it's generally not what Fox News is reporting on or that their reporting is wrong, the problem is when they choose selective reporting. Fox News simply just doesn't report on a lot of things that are politically uncomfortable for their readers.
    - CapricornNoble 6y ago
      Fox News isn't the only organization that selectively reports: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qLD5G-eOqo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qLD5G-eOqo
    - holler 6y ago
      you could replace that with pretty much any major publication...
    - TaylorAlexander 6y ago
      All news agencies have this problem. And both Fox and, say, CNN, don't report on certain subjects in the same way. They both ultimately need to be "advertiser friendly". Like I haven't seen anything on CNN about the US ramping up bombings in Somalia, which is a pretty serious thing! https://theintercept.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-somalia-airstrikes/ https://theintercept.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-somalia-airs...
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PhantomGremlin 6y ago
I could have sworn foxnews.com domain was shadow banned on HN? All you need to know about voting / shadow banning / right vs left / etc on HN is the following, which I stole from somewhere and am too lazy to track down for attribution: HN is open minded about intellectual inquiry as long as that inquiry doesn't challenge anything an average Californian already believes

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symplee 6y ago

Not sure if it's a matter of the overall submission count that's giving this impression, but in the last year, users submitted: 6,612 articles from nytimes.com [0] 91 articles from foxnews.com [1] [0] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=true&query=nytimes.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru... [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=false&query=foxnews.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=fal...

Zenbit_UX 6y ago
The way it should be, only one of those is a news site and it's not the one with the word news in its name.
- FriendlyNormie 6y ago
  Die in a gruesome car accident.
- BenjiWiebe 6y ago
  I like to tell people they are mispronouncing Fox News..... "It's pronounced faux news."
- duncan_bayne 6y ago
  The NY Times doesn't have a stellar track record either: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_controversies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_controver... Although I would much rather them than Fox if forced to choose. (As it is, I follow neither).
- CapricornNoble 6y ago
  NYT produces plenty of "fake news" and biased hypocritical trash. All of the big media outlets are flaming dumpster fires, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzVzG_6jsZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzVzG_6jsZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v18b5ip95Es https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v18b5ip95Es https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewXzRxRen0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewXzRxRen0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfxHG6yM5Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfxHG6yM5Fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIGH7J5CLtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIGH7J5CLtQ There's been a few occasions where I've found an interesting article on Fox News and I won't share or link it here or on Reddit, because I know that the bias is so strong against Fox as an organization that few people would consume the content with an open mind. So I go and track down another outlet covering the same story and link that instead. I'm sure other members here do the same sort of self-censorship, essentially. That's part of why you'll see 6000 submissions from NYT and only 90 from Fox.
  - theonething 6y ago
    > So I go and track down another outlet covering the same story and link that instead. That's exactly what I do on Reddit. I haven't had occasion to share a Fox News link here, but I think I would do it because I trust this place more to make judgements based on the content of the article.

brokencode 6y ago

I think the content Fox News produces is so much lower quality than other sources that there just isn’t any reason to post a story from them.

TaylorAlexander 6y ago
It depends on the subject. Sometimes it’s fine. I browse the headlines on CNN and Fox regularly just to understand what both conservatives and liberals are saying. Some Fox stuff is bad, some isn’t.
- freehunter 6y ago
  Outside of their opinion articles, it's generally not what Fox News is reporting on or that their reporting is wrong, the problem is when they choose selective reporting. Fox News simply just doesn't report on a lot of things that are politically uncomfortable for their readers.
  - CapricornNoble 6y ago
    Fox News isn't the only organization that selectively reports: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qLD5G-eOqo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qLD5G-eOqo
  - holler 6y ago
    you could replace that with pretty much any major publication...
  - TaylorAlexander 6y ago
    All news agencies have this problem. And both Fox and, say, CNN, don't report on certain subjects in the same way. They both ultimately need to be "advertiser friendly". Like I haven't seen anything on CNN about the US ramping up bombings in Somalia, which is a pretty serious thing! https://theintercept.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-somalia-airstrikes/ https://theintercept.com/2020/04/22/coronavirus-somalia-airs...
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PhantomGremlin 6y ago

I could have sworn foxnews.com domain was shadow banned on HN? All you need to know about voting / shadow banning / right vs left / etc on HN is the following, which I stole from somewhere and am too lazy to track down for attribution: HN is open minded about intellectual inquiry as long as that inquiry doesn't challenge anything an average Californian already believes