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> Let's imagine that we simulate the brain in all biological details on a supercomputer. Will that supercomputer be conscious? > No. It doesn't matter whether
by Procrastes 6y ago
> Let's imagine that we simulate the brain in all biological details on a supercomputer. Will that supercomputer be conscious?
> No. It doesn't matter whether the Von Neumann machine is running a weather simulation, playing poker, or simulating the human brain; its integrated information is minute. Consciousness is not about computation; it's a causal power associated with the physics of the system.
Can someone shine some light one what this might mean? I can't wrap my head around what's different about a physical system vs. a sufficiently powerful simulation. I can see an argument that there might be some complexity that is too difficult to compute, but just saying "nope, has to have complex physical connections" seems arbitrary?
Edit: Ah, I missed the discussion further down the thread. Deferring to there.
- DennisP 6y agoThey're saying that simulating a brain won't create consciousness in the same way that simulating a battery won't power your cell phone.
- drclau 6y agoBut a simulated battery can supposedly power a simulated phone, right?
- mcguire 6y agoAnd simulated consciousness is just consciousness? (Don't look at me. Everything here is pure finite state. I'm barely a Mealy machine.)
- gilbetron 6y agoA good analogy! Another one I saw was it's like simulating an antenna.