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Socializing is just as easily possible when working from home. Just meet for a coffee in Zoom or Skype or Whereby and "video chat" for an hour or so. Those are

by 101404 6y ago

Socializing is just as easily possible when working from home. Just meet for a coffee in Zoom or Skype or Whereby and "video chat" for an hour or so. Those are usually my most productive meetings.

pmlnr 6y ago
Why would I "socialize" with colleagues? I'd rather do that with communities I actually share an interest with. (If a colleague happens to be part of it, ok, but it's rare.) For many of us, a workplace is a very small piece of our consciousness, and thus, the amount of shared interest with colleagues is bleak.
- adrianN 6y ago
  It is good for your work to have a rough idea what your colleagues are working on and what they're thinking about. This eventually builds "gut feeling" about who might be able to help you with your current problems if you're stuck. Just chit-chatting with them seems to be an effective way of sharing this information.
  - vlunkr 6y ago
    This is what I worry about losing with remote work. I'm functioning just fine now because I already knew all my co-workers well before we started WFH. But if I were to go to a new company and start remote, I would feel completely lost. All the chit-chat can feel like a waste of time, but IMO a lot of useful information about the company is transferred that way. And there's no way I would jump on a video call with someone I don't personally know to just talk for an hour. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
- dwoot 6y ago
  I think having a choice of being on-prem and/or completely remote is fine But I'd like to mention that it seems like a few people are forgetting about how they met their friends in the first place -- for a vast majority of us, the answer is school, something we sort of had no choice over and were sort of forced into. I participate in quite a few forums and sub-Reddits, but how many of them turn into actual real connections beyond the digital ones is slim. Secondly, in response to those that want to only choose who they want to hang out with -- the flip-side of that is group-think and echo-chamber-ism by not subjecting oneself to orthogonal perspectives... Lastly, as people in technology, we have choices about where to work -- find a place that works on something that you like with people that you like. I have a hard time empathizing with those that say, "we don't have a choice". Yes, getting a job, as a dev can be a grind, but imagine being a musician or an artist or an architect. Honestly, people in tech have it best -- in all other fields you're absolutely stuck and we're here bitching about WFH policies...

by 101404 6y ago

Socializing is just as easily possible when working from home. Just meet for a coffee in Zoom or Skype or Whereby and "video chat" for an hour or so. Those are usually my most productive meetings.

pmlnr 6y ago

Why would I "socialize" with colleagues? I'd rather do that with communities I actually share an interest with. (If a colleague happens to be part of it, ok, but it's rare.) For many of us, a workplace is a very small piece of our consciousness, and thus, the amount of shared interest with colleagues is bleak.

adrianN 6y ago
It is good for your work to have a rough idea what your colleagues are working on and what they're thinking about. This eventually builds "gut feeling" about who might be able to help you with your current problems if you're stuck. Just chit-chatting with them seems to be an effective way of sharing this information.
- vlunkr 6y ago
  This is what I worry about losing with remote work. I'm functioning just fine now because I already knew all my co-workers well before we started WFH. But if I were to go to a new company and start remote, I would feel completely lost. All the chit-chat can feel like a waste of time, but IMO a lot of useful information about the company is transferred that way. And there's no way I would jump on a video call with someone I don't personally know to just talk for an hour. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
dwoot 6y ago
I think having a choice of being on-prem and/or completely remote is fine But I'd like to mention that it seems like a few people are forgetting about how they met their friends in the first place -- for a vast majority of us, the answer is school, something we sort of had no choice over and were sort of forced into. I participate in quite a few forums and sub-Reddits, but how many of them turn into actual real connections beyond the digital ones is slim. Secondly, in response to those that want to only choose who they want to hang out with -- the flip-side of that is group-think and echo-chamber-ism by not subjecting oneself to orthogonal perspectives... Lastly, as people in technology, we have choices about where to work -- find a place that works on something that you like with people that you like. I have a hard time empathizing with those that say, "we don't have a choice". Yes, getting a job, as a dev can be a grind, but imagine being a musician or an artist or an architect. Honestly, people in tech have it best -- in all other fields you're absolutely stuck and we're here bitching about WFH policies...