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> I work for places that pay me for what I'm worth, I don't work for places that pay me based on where I live. That is very short sighted. Your dollar value is

> I work for places that pay me for what I'm worth, I don't work for places that pay me based on where I live. That is very short sighted. Your dollar value is highly dependent on where you live, that's just reality.

wlll 6y ago
Two things here. 1. That is very short sighted. Short sighted? You mean, the area-independent wages I've been earning for the last 10 years or so are going to stop? I can't see that happening, if that's what you mean. 2. Your dollar value is highly dependent on where you live, that's just reality. Only if I am doing something that requires me to be in a certain place, because that's where the value is created. There is a local market for drywall fitting in SF, and there is one in Bunghole, Montana. You can't make the CA rates in MT because you can't provide the value in CA while still being in MT. As a programmer though, I can provide value wherever it is needed from pretty much anywhere I want to be. I'm not providing value in my house, here in England, I'm providing the value at the place I work for. It's for this reason that I'd fully expect to be able to charge Polish rates to a Polish company, and SF rates to an SF company.
capableweb 6y ago
I think you're missing the context here, we're talking about remote positions. Maybe what the company expect to pay depends on where the company's HQ is, if they have one, that kind of makes sense. But the company's cost for an employee shouldn't take the location of the (remote) employee into account because that has nothing to do with the hiring/work whatsoever.
- wlll 6y ago
  Yeah, I think that's partly my fault, I didn't go into enough detail. If I applied for a job/contract in Poland for instance, I'm not going to stamp my foot and throw a tantrum because they won't pay me SF rates. I'd expect them to offer me Polish rates. I also wouldn't expect them to pay me NW England rates (which are likely much higher).

wlll 6y ago

Two things here. 1. That is very short sighted. Short sighted? You mean, the area-independent wages I've been earning for the last 10 years or so are going to stop? I can't see that happening, if that's what you mean. 2. Your dollar value is highly dependent on where you live, that's just reality. Only if I am doing something that requires me to be in a certain place, because that's where the value is created. There is a local market for drywall fitting in SF, and there is one in Bunghole, Montana. You can't make the CA rates in MT because you can't provide the value in CA while still being in MT. As a programmer though, I can provide value wherever it is needed from pretty much anywhere I want to be. I'm not providing value in my house, here in England, I'm providing the value at the place I work for. It's for this reason that I'd fully expect to be able to charge Polish rates to a Polish company, and SF rates to an SF company.

capableweb 6y ago

I think you're missing the context here, we're talking about remote positions. Maybe what the company expect to pay depends on where the company's HQ is, if they have one, that kind of makes sense. But the company's cost for an employee shouldn't take the location of the (remote) employee into account because that has nothing to do with the hiring/work whatsoever.

wlll 6y ago
Yeah, I think that's partly my fault, I didn't go into enough detail. If I applied for a job/contract in Poland for instance, I'm not going to stamp my foot and throw a tantrum because they won't pay me SF rates. I'd expect them to offer me Polish rates. I also wouldn't expect them to pay me NW England rates (which are likely much higher).