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Isn't this a win-win-win though? Salaries become more normalized across the country so people can work from where they choose, SF rents will go down as techies

Isn't this a win-win-win though? Salaries become more normalized across the country so people can work from where they choose, SF rents will go down as techies start streaming out of the Bay Area, hiring pools for companies become inclusive of people who don't want to move to the Bay Area (or the other 2-3 tech cities). The rest of the country also certainly doesn't pay 1/3rd of your salary.

jrockway 6y ago
Will people start streaming out of the Bay Area, though? The thing that always interested me about the Bay Area was that my friends in Mountain View would be posting long bike rides throughout the winter. Where it's snowy and below freezing in New York, it's 55 degrees and sunny there. I imagine people like that a lot, and is part of the reason it's a popular place to live. There are other places in the US that are warm in the winter, of course, but less of them are also nice in the summer. Then among those, very few of them match the Bay Area in friendliness to things like LGBT causes. I have a feeling that many people will continue gravitating to the Bay Area.
- erohead 6y ago
  As a Canadian who moved to Palo Alto 10 years ago - this is the real answer! I love biking in the 'winter'
- tfehring 6y ago
  Is the Bay Area unique in the US for being progressive, relatively walkable/bikeable, and having great weather? This is a sincere question, by the way. (It's also a practical one - I just accepted a fully remote position, and I'd move to the Bay Area in a heartbeat if it weren't so expensive.)
  - pb7 6y ago
    If by unique you mean in the vast minority, yes, if the only one, then no. Bay Area isn’t really walkable as it’s really vast. Mostly just San Francisco.
  - fermienrico 6y ago
    I think its too progressive where you cannot be a centrist or people will look at you like they look at centrists in alabama. Bay area has one of the most closed minded people when it comes to politics. Jack Dorsey (Twitter CEO) talked about it in his interviews with Joe Rogan and such - how do we make sure that voices across the spectrum are represented on Twitter and just not what silicon valley thinks is acceptable? There is definitely bias. I don't want to open a can of worms, but I personally don't like living in the bay area.
    - redisman 6y ago
      People who think you can't be a centrist in SF or Alabama spend too much time on Twitter.
- francisofascii 6y ago
  But isn't the rest of the world coming around on LGBT causes as well, and that you don't have to live in NYC or SF for LGBT friendliness? So I think most cities with decent weather is viable.
- redisman 6y ago
  If you remove the requirement of having to commute into the Bay Area, finding a place where you can bike every day of the year just becomes even easier. The American Southwest probably has a dozen places that are LGBT friendly and you can bike all year in beautiful nature. For half or less rent. If it's anything like Seattle, there are great and beautiful communities a few hours away - you get the same weather and even better nature but it's too far to commute. And they're a lot cheaper.
  - jrockway 6y ago
    Personally I like the weather of the pacific northwest, but many people from California will tell you it rains too much. Seattle is also as expensive as New York and the Bay Area.

jrockway 6y ago

Will people start streaming out of the Bay Area, though? The thing that always interested me about the Bay Area was that my friends in Mountain View would be posting long bike rides throughout the winter. Where it's snowy and below freezing in New York, it's 55 degrees and sunny there. I imagine people like that a lot, and is part of the reason it's a popular place to live. There are other places in the US that are warm in the winter, of course, but less of them are also nice in the summer. Then among those, very few of them match the Bay Area in friendliness to things like LGBT causes. I have a feeling that many people will continue gravitating to the Bay Area.

erohead 6y ago
As a Canadian who moved to Palo Alto 10 years ago - this is the real answer! I love biking in the 'winter'
tfehring 6y ago
Is the Bay Area unique in the US for being progressive, relatively walkable/bikeable, and having great weather? This is a sincere question, by the way. (It's also a practical one - I just accepted a fully remote position, and I'd move to the Bay Area in a heartbeat if it weren't so expensive.)
- pb7 6y ago
  If by unique you mean in the vast minority, yes, if the only one, then no. Bay Area isn’t really walkable as it’s really vast. Mostly just San Francisco.
- fermienrico 6y ago
  I think its too progressive where you cannot be a centrist or people will look at you like they look at centrists in alabama. Bay area has one of the most closed minded people when it comes to politics. Jack Dorsey (Twitter CEO) talked about it in his interviews with Joe Rogan and such - how do we make sure that voices across the spectrum are represented on Twitter and just not what silicon valley thinks is acceptable? There is definitely bias. I don't want to open a can of worms, but I personally don't like living in the bay area.
  - redisman 6y ago
    People who think you can't be a centrist in SF or Alabama spend too much time on Twitter.
francisofascii 6y ago
But isn't the rest of the world coming around on LGBT causes as well, and that you don't have to live in NYC or SF for LGBT friendliness? So I think most cities with decent weather is viable.
redisman 6y ago
If you remove the requirement of having to commute into the Bay Area, finding a place where you can bike every day of the year just becomes even easier. The American Southwest probably has a dozen places that are LGBT friendly and you can bike all year in beautiful nature. For half or less rent. If it's anything like Seattle, there are great and beautiful communities a few hours away - you get the same weather and even better nature but it's too far to commute. And they're a lot cheaper.
- jrockway 6y ago
  Personally I like the weather of the pacific northwest, but many people from California will tell you it rains too much. Seattle is also as expensive as New York and the Bay Area.