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FYI: Kite as a company had a backlash from the community after they acquired popular Python packages and injected their spyware and ads. So far they've learnt f

FYI: Kite as a company had a backlash from the community after they acquired popular Python packages and injected their spyware and ads. So far they've learnt from that lesson, but who knows if they'll stay that way.

faitswulff 6y ago
That’s actually worse than the last time I remember them being in the limelight for questionable privacy regarding sending your code to their servers.
- robertlagrant 6y ago
  Yes, code extraction is deeply worrying. I installed Kite once, but never enabled it for this reason.
adamsmith 6y ago
We hear you. We agree this was a mistake, and over the ~three years since then we've listened to the community, for example by releasing local processing for Kite.
- nikisweeting 6y ago
  Why is "send usage metrics" still on by default in the Kite.app preferences? I was prepared to give Kite another shot but seeing that checkbox just made me lose confidence. Caddy almost got destroyed by this! Please please please reconsider and make telemetry opt-in, you don't have enough goodwill given Kite's history with exfiltration, and the product has access to too much vital information to be playing around with users trust like this.
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- dna_polymerase 6y ago
  Were the minds that decided this was a good idea in the first place fired from the company? I guess it was greenlighted from the very top. No idea how anybody could ever trust you ever again.
whadar 6y ago
if you're concerned with Kite, you may want to try TabNine (https://tabnine.com https://tabnine.com), which works for JavaScript, Python, and all popular languages
- dang 6y ago
  Suggesting alternatives is fine in principle, but astroturfing a competitor's thread is not. You guys have crossed the line. Please stop and do not do this on HN again. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160881 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160881 I suppose I should add that we have no interest in the competition or which product is better, but we have a strong interest in preserving the integrity of HN threads, and the community demands that of us.
nonbirithm 6y ago
The ads were specifically added into two community supported Atom extensions after Kite employees got contributor access to both of them. For those curious, here are the relevant issues: https://github.com/atom-minimap/minimap/issues/588 https://github.com/atom-minimap/minimap/issues/588 https://github.com/autocomplete-python/autocomplete-python/issues/308 https://github.com/autocomplete-python/autocomplete-python/i...

faitswulff 6y ago

That’s actually worse than the last time I remember them being in the limelight for questionable privacy regarding sending your code to their servers.

robertlagrant 6y ago
Yes, code extraction is deeply worrying. I installed Kite once, but never enabled it for this reason.

adamsmith 6y ago

We hear you. We agree this was a mistake, and over the ~three years since then we've listened to the community, for example by releasing local processing for Kite.

nikisweeting 6y ago
Why is "send usage metrics" still on by default in the Kite.app preferences? I was prepared to give Kite another shot but seeing that checkbox just made me lose confidence. Caddy almost got destroyed by this! Please please please reconsider and make telemetry opt-in, you don't have enough goodwill given Kite's history with exfiltration, and the product has access to too much vital information to be playing around with users trust like this.
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dna_polymerase 6y ago
Were the minds that decided this was a good idea in the first place fired from the company? I guess it was greenlighted from the very top. No idea how anybody could ever trust you ever again.

whadar 6y ago

if you're concerned with Kite, you may want to try TabNine (https://tabnine.com https://tabnine.com), which works for JavaScript, Python, and all popular languages

dang 6y ago
Suggesting alternatives is fine in principle, but astroturfing a competitor's thread is not. You guys have crossed the line. Please stop and do not do this on HN again. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160881 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23160881 I suppose I should add that we have no interest in the competition or which product is better, but we have a strong interest in preserving the integrity of HN threads, and the community demands that of us.

nonbirithm 6y ago

The ads were specifically added into two community supported Atom extensions after Kite employees got contributor access to both of them. For those curious, here are the relevant issues: https://github.com/atom-minimap/minimap/issues/588 https://github.com/atom-minimap/minimap/issues/588 https://github.com/autocomplete-python/autocomplete-python/issues/308 https://github.com/autocomplete-python/autocomplete-python/i...