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Any reason to use this over TabNine[1]? I’ve been using that for months, and only have good things to say about it. It’s like it’s reading your mind. Strong rec

by tobr 6y ago

Any reason to use this over TabNine[1]? I’ve been using that for months, and only have good things to say about it. It’s like it’s reading your mind. Strong recommendation. 1: https://www.tabnine.com https://www.tabnine.com

rhlsthrm 6y ago
I just downloaded this yesterday and it’s already been insanely good. Really stoked to see more players and improvement in this space.
will_raw 6y ago
Off-topic maybe, but do you feel the any kind of lag with TabNine. I've dropped using it after a month as its slowed down my editor.
- justkez 6y ago
  I've come back to TabNine after a hiatus and do see the occasional lag or the process thrashing at 100% of a core. Depending on mood I'll kill it or let it recover. I find myself forgiving any sporadic lags thanks to the productivity gains.
- droid_w 6y ago
  Dror from TabNine here. We've introduced some big improvements in TabNine's resource consumption in the last few weeks, and there's more to come. In addition, TabNine's Professional version (free trial available) lets you use our GPU cloud servers which means dramatically reduced load on your machine.
  - terafo 6y ago
    Are there any plans to allow using local GPU?
    - droid_w 6y ago
      We're looking into using local GPUs, but can't promise anything at the moment.
- droid_w 6y ago
  Could you share the OS and editor you're using? we're working to make TabNine super performant.
  - will_raw 6y ago
    Thanks for the comment, I came back to TabNine after your previous comment, and I am glad that the issues (mostly performance) looks to be resolved, yet I need to play more with it. Edit: OS: mac os 15.4.2 Editor: Vim and VScode
riquito 6y ago
I agree that it's wonderful, it impresses me every day. When I saw kite I immediately thought about TabNine.
dhung 6y ago
Daniel from Kite here. TabNine is great! And at the end of the day, Kite's completions and TabNine serve the same purpose. However there are a couple of differences in how we designed Kite vs TabNine. First, the most important consideration for us was if our completions model could provide a good user experience 1) locally and 2) with minimal CPU and memory usage footprint. While we're constantly tuning the product's performance, Kite already uses less memory and CPU than TabNine. We know how important it is to save resources (and battery life!) when you're developing, so this was a huge sticking point for us. Second, we've also put a ton of thought into dealing with the visual noise that completions of this nature introduce. The completions that are predicted by models such as Kite's and TabNine's can sometimes be irrelevant or redundant, so it's important to design filters that reduce the amount of what we call "low value" completions shown so that developers are less distracted. In Python, we have a best-in-class static analysis engine that we use to filter out low value completions. We don't have our own proprietary JS static analysis engine yet, but we've done some UX "hacks" to make sure Kite's JS completions aren't redundant and don't crowd out other completions the user may find useful e.g. native completions from the IDE. Third, (and this is a point mainly for Python), is that Kite is much more than just completions. We also provide help for calling functions, instant documentation and we have some more features in the works. Completions certainly help developers physically write code, but we know that "writing code" also includes a lot of reading, debugging, etc. So we're trying to build a product that helps out developers in all phases.
codemanjoe 6y ago
if you use WebStorm or IntelliJ, Codota (https://www.codota.com https://www.codota.com) is also very good
- nlh 6y ago
  And, interestingly enough, Codota just acquired TabNine a few months ago :)
  - codemanjoe 6y ago
    What? That's pretty massive. So Codota+TabNine got you covered on all languages & IDE's.
    - dang 6y ago
      There's evidence that you guys have been astroturfing this thread. We ban accounts and sites that do that. Please stop now and never do this on HN again. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23159058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23159058
      - tobr 6y ago
        I hope my comments in the thread have not been interpreted as astroturfing. I have no affiliation with TabNine, I’m just a happy user.
        dang 6y ago
        I was talking about other accounts than yours. You're fine.
mleonard 6y ago
Does Kite's VSCode extension work with Github Codespaces? You can now install vscode-server on a remote machine and connect to it over ssh from your local vscode or even from vscode in the browser (using Visual Studio CodeSpaces or the upcoming Github Codespaces) Will Kite work with this?? Github CodeSpaces annoucement a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23092904 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23092904
- dhung 6y ago
  Kite currently doesn't work with remote coding in VS Code. That said, we're always open to integrating with more platforms, especially if there's strong enough demand from our users.

by tobr 6y ago

rhlsthrm 6y ago

I just downloaded this yesterday and it’s already been insanely good. Really stoked to see more players and improvement in this space.

will_raw 6y ago

Off-topic maybe, but do you feel the any kind of lag with TabNine. I've dropped using it after a month as its slowed down my editor.

justkez 6y ago
I've come back to TabNine after a hiatus and do see the occasional lag or the process thrashing at 100% of a core. Depending on mood I'll kill it or let it recover. I find myself forgiving any sporadic lags thanks to the productivity gains.
droid_w 6y ago
Dror from TabNine here. We've introduced some big improvements in TabNine's resource consumption in the last few weeks, and there's more to come. In addition, TabNine's Professional version (free trial available) lets you use our GPU cloud servers which means dramatically reduced load on your machine.
- terafo 6y ago
  Are there any plans to allow using local GPU?
  - droid_w 6y ago
    We're looking into using local GPUs, but can't promise anything at the moment.
droid_w 6y ago
Could you share the OS and editor you're using? we're working to make TabNine super performant.
- will_raw 6y ago
  Thanks for the comment, I came back to TabNine after your previous comment, and I am glad that the issues (mostly performance) looks to be resolved, yet I need to play more with it. Edit: OS: mac os 15.4.2 Editor: Vim and VScode

riquito 6y ago

I agree that it's wonderful, it impresses me every day. When I saw kite I immediately thought about TabNine.

dhung 6y ago

Daniel from Kite here. TabNine is great! And at the end of the day, Kite's completions and TabNine serve the same purpose. However there are a couple of differences in how we designed Kite vs TabNine. First, the most important consideration for us was if our completions model could provide a good user experience 1) locally and 2) with minimal CPU and memory usage footprint. While we're constantly tuning the product's performance, Kite already uses less memory and CPU than TabNine. We know how important it is to save resources (and battery life!) when you're developing, so this was a huge sticking point for us. Second, we've also put a ton of thought into dealing with the visual noise that completions of this nature introduce. The completions that are predicted by models such as Kite's and TabNine's can sometimes be irrelevant or redundant, so it's important to design filters that reduce the amount of what we call "low value" completions shown so that developers are less distracted. In Python, we have a best-in-class static analysis engine that we use to filter out low value completions. We don't have our own proprietary JS static analysis engine yet, but we've done some UX "hacks" to make sure Kite's JS completions aren't redundant and don't crowd out other completions the user may find useful e.g. native completions from the IDE. Third, (and this is a point mainly for Python), is that Kite is much more than just completions. We also provide help for calling functions, instant documentation and we have some more features in the works. Completions certainly help developers physically write code, but we know that "writing code" also includes a lot of reading, debugging, etc. So we're trying to build a product that helps out developers in all phases.

codemanjoe 6y ago

if you use WebStorm or IntelliJ, Codota (https://www.codota.com https://www.codota.com) is also very good

nlh 6y ago
And, interestingly enough, Codota just acquired TabNine a few months ago :)
- codemanjoe 6y ago
  What? That's pretty massive. So Codota+TabNine got you covered on all languages & IDE's.
  - dang 6y ago
    There's evidence that you guys have been astroturfing this thread. We ban accounts and sites that do that. Please stop now and never do this on HN again. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23159058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23159058
    - tobr 6y ago
      I hope my comments in the thread have not been interpreted as astroturfing. I have no affiliation with TabNine, I’m just a happy user.
      - dang 6y ago
        I was talking about other accounts than yours. You're fine.

mleonard 6y ago

Does Kite's VSCode extension work with Github Codespaces? You can now install vscode-server on a remote machine and connect to it over ssh from your local vscode or even from vscode in the browser (using Visual Studio CodeSpaces or the upcoming Github Codespaces) Will Kite work with this?? Github CodeSpaces annoucement a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23092904 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23092904

dhung 6y ago
Kite currently doesn't work with remote coding in VS Code. That said, we're always open to integrating with more platforms, especially if there's strong enough demand from our users.