Before taxes. I think developers in Europe in general sell themselves short, they feel like outcasts who have to go through suffering for having a better job t

Before taxes. I think developers in Europe in general sell themselves short, they feel like outcasts who have to go through suffering for having a better job than the average. I used to be like that, I would accept lower rates to not feel obligated to wear a suit and a tie. Now I don't care anymore, still don't wear ties at work, I show up late in the morning (not a morning person, sorry!) but charge what I think is the right amount.