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This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more

by 40four 6y ago

This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Even more sad, is when you search and try to find better sources, and realize that it's mostly just a few small, outlier publications, copy and pasting off of each other. Business Insider unabashedly copy and pasted from Charged Retail, and didn't even bother to format/ edit/ paraphrase anything. Even text from the link to sign up for the Charged Retail news letter is in there (https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/lidl-owner-launching-its-own-rival-to-amazon-web-services-8852719 https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/lidl-owner-l...). So the way I see this, there is no story here. This is not real news. This is a rumor. Maybe even fake news. Nothing more, so let's stop talking about it.

jpswade 6y ago
"The medium is the message" so they say. This is what the Internet has become. The commentary is what makes this interesting, not the content of the article.
- 40four 6y ago
  Hey, I like comments and commentary as much as the next person. But when I waste 10 minutes of my morning perusing threads, I really hope they are about something real :) To be fair, you're probably right. The commentary is the most interesting part, even if the content is just a rumor, or hypothetical or whatever. There is still some value to be had from the threads. I saw a lot of experiences or personal info shared here about Schwarz Group, so some of that was interesting.
SamuelAdams 6y ago
This article is a textbook example of "news stacking" from the book "Trust Me, I'm Lying" by Ryan Holiday [1]. Step 1, post some outlandish stories to random blog posts. These blog posts are usually niche, and are run by some "experts" with a core audience. They are trusted to be right. Then that gets picked up by intermediary news sites like this *.co.uk domain. Then it gets floated to social media, where it gets popular and noticed by the big guns (NYT, Business Insider, Tech Crunch, etc) and then they just post the same stuff. Then suddenly what was once a rumor becomes true. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Me,_I%27m_Lying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Me,_I%27m_Lying
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- 1MachineElf 6y ago
  NYT, Businesses Insoder, Tech Crunch, etc. can simply all report that there is a rumor, and if they just do that often enough, society will treat it like a fact.
bfieidhbrjr 6y ago
> This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Yes.
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- narrowtux 6y ago
  No, this site is really fringe, I think nobody here was on this site before. I expect higher levels of quality from reputable news sources.
nojito 6y ago
>Business Insider unabashedly copy and pasted from Charged Retail, and didn't even bother to format/ edit/ paraphrase anything. Even text from the link to sign up for the Charged Retail news letter is in there (https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/lidl-owner-l... https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/lidl-owner-l...). it's not copy pasting. BI is also a publishing platform. Same reason why you see Bloomberg articles in full being posting on Yahoo Finance.
dang 6y ago
You're probably right, but the thread turned out to be unexpectedly interesting.
- 40four 6y ago
  Fair point. I'll reconsider where I said 'stop talking about it'. Even bad stories can spawn good conversation! Some interesting inside experiences/ opinions about Schwarz Group were shared. Sometimes I need to keep my angry morning rant to myself! I'll try to keep this in mind in the future.

by 40four 6y ago

jpswade 6y ago

"The medium is the message" so they say. This is what the Internet has become. The commentary is what makes this interesting, not the content of the article.

40four 6y ago
Hey, I like comments and commentary as much as the next person. But when I waste 10 minutes of my morning perusing threads, I really hope they are about something real :) To be fair, you're probably right. The commentary is the most interesting part, even if the content is just a rumor, or hypothetical or whatever. There is still some value to be had from the threads. I saw a lot of experiences or personal info shared here about Schwarz Group, so some of that was interesting.

SamuelAdams 6y ago

This article is a textbook example of "news stacking" from the book "Trust Me, I'm Lying" by Ryan Holiday [1]. Step 1, post some outlandish stories to random blog posts. These blog posts are usually niche, and are run by some "experts" with a core audience. They are trusted to be right. Then that gets picked up by intermediary news sites like this *.co.uk domain. Then it gets floated to social media, where it gets popular and noticed by the big guns (NYT, Business Insider, Tech Crunch, etc) and then they just post the same stuff. Then suddenly what was once a rumor becomes true. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Me,_I%27m_Lying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Me,_I%27m_Lying

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1MachineElf 6y ago
NYT, Businesses Insoder, Tech Crunch, etc. can simply all report that there is a rumor, and if they just do that often enough, society will treat it like a fact.

bfieidhbrjr 6y ago

> This quality of this article is terrible. It's very short (235 words), there are no concrete sources, or solid evidence that this is real. This is nothing more than speculation. Is this considered journalism is 2020? Yes.

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narrowtux 6y ago
No, this site is really fringe, I think nobody here was on this site before. I expect higher levels of quality from reputable news sources.

nojito 6y ago

>Business Insider unabashedly copy and pasted from Charged Retail, and didn't even bother to format/ edit/ paraphrase anything. Even text from the link to sign up for the Charged Retail news letter is in there (https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/lidl-owner-l... https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/lidl-owner-l...). it's not copy pasting. BI is also a publishing platform. Same reason why you see Bloomberg articles in full being posting on Yahoo Finance.

dang 6y ago

You're probably right, but the thread turned out to be unexpectedly interesting.

40four 6y ago
Fair point. I'll reconsider where I said 'stop talking about it'. Even bad stories can spawn good conversation! Some interesting inside experiences/ opinions about Schwarz Group were shared. Sometimes I need to keep my angry morning rant to myself! I'll try to keep this in mind in the future.