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> Salaries are off the charts (it would make senior software engineers in SV look pale). I have a hard time believing this, given that senior engineers at plac

> Salaries are off the charts (it would make senior software engineers in SV look pale). I have a hard time believing this, given that senior engineers at places like Google or Facebook are making 300k+.

dubcanada 7y ago
According to https://www.comparably.com/companies/lidl/salaries/software-engineer https://www.comparably.com/companies/lidl/salaries/software-... and glassdoor senior software engineers are around 150k to 200k and directors are around 200k to 300k. So they are largely comparable to SV salaries at Google/Facebook. Which means since Google/Facebook pay more than average, they are above average for SV. And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV.
- TulliusCicero 7y ago
  GP said that the salaries would make senior engineers in Silicon Valley pale. That implies that they're much higher. Instead, they're actually much lower, as I suspected. This is true even for the senior engineers, at around half the compensation or so; for the principal engineers and directors, working somewhere like Google or FB gets you 3-5x what's quoted for Lidl. > So they are largely comparable to SV salaries at Google/Facebook This is completely wrong. Compensation for senior engineers at Google/FB is around 350k USD: https://www.levels.fyi/# https://www.levels.fyi/# > And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV. Agreed. Nevertheless, the salaries aren't going to make any senior engineers in SV "pale", when they're half as much.
  - benjohnson1707 7y ago
    Agreed! Let me clarify: high wages, once you're an engineering manager it's probably comparable. However, you're not nearly as relevant, from a value-sdd perspective. FAANG etc. are software companies. Lidl is an offline retailer. So top notch engineering there is not nearly as critical as for a company like facebook. So let me rephrase: way more buck for way less bang! But a fair critique! Thanks for pointing out.
    - mrep 7y ago
      Most first level managers at G/FB are L6 and thus clearing about 500k a year [0]. Lidl really pays that for first level managers? [0]: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-Engi...
- Hir0ki 7y ago
  >And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV. But most of the Jobs aren't in cities like Berlin. Most of them are at there HQ in Heilbronn or near it. So the cost of living is even lower.

dubcanada 7y ago

According to https://www.comparably.com/companies/lidl/salaries/software-engineer https://www.comparably.com/companies/lidl/salaries/software-... and glassdoor senior software engineers are around 150k to 200k and directors are around 200k to 300k. So they are largely comparable to SV salaries at Google/Facebook. Which means since Google/Facebook pay more than average, they are above average for SV. And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV.

TulliusCicero 7y ago
GP said that the salaries would make senior engineers in Silicon Valley pale. That implies that they're much higher. Instead, they're actually much lower, as I suspected. This is true even for the senior engineers, at around half the compensation or so; for the principal engineers and directors, working somewhere like Google or FB gets you 3-5x what's quoted for Lidl. > So they are largely comparable to SV salaries at Google/Facebook This is completely wrong. Compensation for senior engineers at Google/FB is around 350k USD: https://www.levels.fyi/# https://www.levels.fyi/# > And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV. Agreed. Nevertheless, the salaries aren't going to make any senior engineers in SV "pale", when they're half as much.
- benjohnson1707 7y ago
  Agreed! Let me clarify: high wages, once you're an engineering manager it's probably comparable. However, you're not nearly as relevant, from a value-sdd perspective. FAANG etc. are software companies. Lidl is an offline retailer. So top notch engineering there is not nearly as critical as for a company like facebook. So let me rephrase: way more buck for way less bang! But a fair critique! Thanks for pointing out.
  - mrep 7y ago
    Most first level managers at G/FB are L6 and thus clearing about 500k a year [0]. Lidl really pays that for first level managers? [0]: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-Engi...
Hir0ki 7y ago
>And that's at places like Berlin which are cheaper to live than SV. But most of the Jobs aren't in cities like Berlin. Most of them are at there HQ in Heilbronn or near it. So the cost of living is even lower.