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Crazy idea: Why don't ICANN hand over the running of .org to archive.org? It's a bit outside their expertise, but they do have knowhow on running tech to scale,

Crazy idea: Why don't ICANN hand over the running of .org to archive.org? It's a bit outside their expertise, but they do have knowhow on running tech to scale, and the extra revenue could be used to fund a very good cause. Also, I'd trust these guys not to mishandle .org (yeah, I know it's not going to happen)

jonah-archive 6y ago
> Also, I'd trust these guys not to mishandle .org As much as I like the idea of running a TLD, if anyone gives me a TLD, I'm gonna put an MX record on it and be jonah@org. That's a promise. EDIT: To be fair, I would probably be overwhelmed with the usual sense of responsibility and not do this. But, the temptation
- Jleagle 6y ago
  Would be a nightmare with all the crappy email validators out there..
  - myself248 6y ago
    I recall a similar story involving amateur radio. By ITU convention, amateur callsigns are [prefix][digit][suffix], like W1AW. So one night, a new ham is operating his friend's fancier station, which has the HF equipment to talk clear around the world. And they make contact with another ham identifying himself as JY1. No suffix. Well that's weird, so they look it up, the JY prefix is Jordan, okay. So the guy on the mic just asks, "why doesn't your callsign have any letters after the digit?" and the reply comes back with a chuckle, "Oh, because I am the King." That was the late King Hussein. about whom much has been written. I don't know if his call ever caused trouble with software validators, but I'd certainly believe it.
    - lb1lf 6y ago
      I know of a callsign causing trouble with most log programs - RAEM, which Russian amateurs dust off every now and then to commemorate polar pioneer Ernst Krenkel. Took a while to get ARRL Logbook of the World credit for that one.
i5heu 6y ago
> Also, I'd trust these guys not to mishandle .org I don't trust them at all with this scope. The Archive Team dose not archive 4chan.org - not even in a shadow archive. I think that 4chan.org is an value for social sciences of the future. 4chan.org has a influence to our culture (see the "operations" they done [1]) and it is just silly not to archive it because it is a ">right shithole<" that has ">no value for future generations<" (sadly i deleted my part of the "discussion"). I reported this issue to Jason Scott. While our discussion he got an email reading "relese it you faggot" what let him tweet "Guess who just inspired me to delay releasing the 4 Chan archives another few years" and "Yeah, I think that honestly I'm a little sick of people trying to turn the man child horseshit of that community into some sort of translated normal humanity" and "You know who thinks 4chan is a vital part of anything - not people" [2] - i was blocked shortly after that. I am really disappointed that this was handled so poorly I don't think this is a good behavior. I don't think it is okay that individuals in the Internet Archive have this much power to cripple the ability of the future to understand what happened and how. And it is a really bad idea to give these people, that let this happen, this much power. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan#Controversies [2] https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/970402041792143360 https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/970402041792143360

jonah-archive 6y ago

> Also, I'd trust these guys not to mishandle .org As much as I like the idea of running a TLD, if anyone gives me a TLD, I'm gonna put an MX record on it and be jonah@org. That's a promise. EDIT: To be fair, I would probably be overwhelmed with the usual sense of responsibility and not do this. But, the temptation

Jleagle 6y ago
Would be a nightmare with all the crappy email validators out there..
- myself248 6y ago
  I recall a similar story involving amateur radio. By ITU convention, amateur callsigns are [prefix][digit][suffix], like W1AW. So one night, a new ham is operating his friend's fancier station, which has the HF equipment to talk clear around the world. And they make contact with another ham identifying himself as JY1. No suffix. Well that's weird, so they look it up, the JY prefix is Jordan, okay. So the guy on the mic just asks, "why doesn't your callsign have any letters after the digit?" and the reply comes back with a chuckle, "Oh, because I am the King." That was the late King Hussein. about whom much has been written. I don't know if his call ever caused trouble with software validators, but I'd certainly believe it.
  - lb1lf 6y ago
    I know of a callsign causing trouble with most log programs - RAEM, which Russian amateurs dust off every now and then to commemorate polar pioneer Ernst Krenkel. Took a while to get ARRL Logbook of the World credit for that one.

i5heu 6y ago

> Also, I'd trust these guys not to mishandle .org I don't trust them at all with this scope. The Archive Team dose not archive 4chan.org - not even in a shadow archive. I think that 4chan.org is an value for social sciences of the future. 4chan.org has a influence to our culture (see the "operations" they done [1]) and it is just silly not to archive it because it is a ">right shithole<" that has ">no value for future generations<" (sadly i deleted my part of the "discussion"). I reported this issue to Jason Scott. While our discussion he got an email reading "relese it you faggot" what let him tweet "Guess who just inspired me to delay releasing the 4 Chan archives another few years" and "Yeah, I think that honestly I'm a little sick of people trying to turn the man child horseshit of that community into some sort of translated normal humanity" and "You know who thinks 4chan is a vital part of anything - not people" [2] - i was blocked shortly after that. I am really disappointed that this was handled so poorly I don't think this is a good behavior. I don't think it is okay that individuals in the Internet Archive have this much power to cripple the ability of the future to understand what happened and how. And it is a really bad idea to give these people, that let this happen, this much power. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan#Controversies [2] https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/970402041792143360 https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/970402041792143360