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>Translation: my employees now must weigh the consequences of losing their jobs on the one hand vs. being arrested on the other. "First, I’d like to be super c

by 34679 6y ago

>Translation: my employees now must weigh the consequences of losing their jobs on the one hand vs. being arrested on the other. "First, I’d like to be super clear that if you feel the slightest bit ill or even uncomfortable, please don’t feel obligated to come to work. I will personally be at work, but that is just me. Totally OK if you want to stay home for any reason." https://electrek.co/2020/03/17/elon-musk-tesla-coronavirus-panic-email/ https://electrek.co/2020/03/17/elon-musk-tesla-coronavirus-p...

GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
I'm guessing the workers at his factories need to come to work anyways. A paycheck is a paycheck.
- Houshalter 6y ago
  US unemployment is extremely generous.
  - foota 6y ago
    I don't think this is true relative to international expectations? It's certainly more than it was pre-covid, but isn't it still limited time and low income for a high cost of living area?
    - Houshalter 6y ago
      I have been paid $3,232 to sit at home and do nothing the last month. Not including the stimulus check I haven't cashed yet. I would have made about $3,000 in the same time. That is completely insane to me. I do not see how that isn't extremely generous. I don't see how it's sustainable either.
      - foota 6y ago
        That's hardly extremely generous for a city. Many people have rents between 1-2k which each up a third to two thirds of that. I realize it may be generous in your situation though. Re: affordability/sustainability, the alternative is possibly a recession as great or worse than the great depression, so the government is willing to borrow as much as it can to prop up consumer spending during the crisis. The idea being that if we continue spending we can avoid a demand crash and recover quickly once we can stop social distancing safely.
- 34679 6y ago
  Exactly. Which is why I don't understand all the people shitting on him for making that option available.
mr_isomies 6y ago
That sounds a bit like the "unlimited vacation days" startup trope: you _can_ take as much as you want, but it comes with an invisible character tax that your manager will factor in. Sure, if you are uncomfortable, don't come... But if your line manager is on site, they might remember that you were not "in this together" like the other, real troopers. Of course EM will be on the line, he has no underlying conditions and access to the best healthcare in the world, what can he lose?

by 34679 6y ago

GaryNumanVevo 6y ago

I'm guessing the workers at his factories need to come to work anyways. A paycheck is a paycheck.

Houshalter 6y ago
US unemployment is extremely generous.
- foota 6y ago
  I don't think this is true relative to international expectations? It's certainly more than it was pre-covid, but isn't it still limited time and low income for a high cost of living area?
  - Houshalter 6y ago
    I have been paid $3,232 to sit at home and do nothing the last month. Not including the stimulus check I haven't cashed yet. I would have made about $3,000 in the same time. That is completely insane to me. I do not see how that isn't extremely generous. I don't see how it's sustainable either.
    - foota 6y ago
      That's hardly extremely generous for a city. Many people have rents between 1-2k which each up a third to two thirds of that. I realize it may be generous in your situation though. Re: affordability/sustainability, the alternative is possibly a recession as great or worse than the great depression, so the government is willing to borrow as much as it can to prop up consumer spending during the crisis. The idea being that if we continue spending we can avoid a demand crash and recover quickly once we can stop social distancing safely.
34679 6y ago
Exactly. Which is why I don't understand all the people shitting on him for making that option available.

mr_isomies 6y ago

That sounds a bit like the "unlimited vacation days" startup trope: you _can_ take as much as you want, but it comes with an invisible character tax that your manager will factor in. Sure, if you are uncomfortable, don't come... But if your line manager is on site, they might remember that you were not "in this together" like the other, real troopers. Of course EM will be on the line, he has no underlying conditions and access to the best healthcare in the world, what can he lose?