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>The capitol of sweden is being hit as hard as NYC. No actually in both cases it's a miniscule percentage of the overall population. People should be looking

by htnsao 6y ago

>The capitol of sweden is being hit as hard as NYC. No actually in both cases it's a miniscule percentage of the overall population. People should be looking at percentages, because absolute values just cause lockdown hysteria. >The resignation that shit's bad, so we should let it get worse is fatalistic and untenable. It's not resignation, it's indignation at the over-reaction to this practically common virus. >> And as if the world can go on shut down indefinitely. >Indeed it can't, no one is proposing that. So the whole exercise is pointless because the virus is going to do it's rounds anyway.

joshuamorton 6y ago
> No actually in both cases it's a miniscule percentage of the overall population. People should be looking at percentages, because absolute values just cause lockdown hysteria. Yes, .2% of NYC residents are dead from Covid. Another % or so will likely have lifelong consequences. And that's with social distancing. Without, we'd be looking at 1% and 5-10%. And many of that 5-10% are young. Looking solely at deaths doesn't tell the whole story. > So the whole exercise is pointless because the virus is going to do it's rounds anyway. Sure sounds like resignation to me. But no, the measures being taken now allow us to understand more about the virus and ways to prevent it. We're seeing lockdowns end and lighten, replaced by more lighweight measures like mask requirements and contact tracing. We could have had this happen weeks ago and have been done at a fraction of the cost, but the US response was delayed due to the same kind of head burying as is happening in Brazil now.
- htnsao 6y ago
  0.2% dead and everyone loses their minds. > Sure sounds like resignation to me. No it's just reality. I've had a dengue a few times. Some die. People are working to fix it. We don't shut down everything for it. You've resigned to the collateral damage caused from the economic shut down. I have not. Maybe if you had your own business you'd have a different opinion on the matter.
  - joshuamorton 6y ago
    > You've resigned to the collateral damage caused from the economic shut down. I have not. Maybe if you had your own business you'd have a different opinion on the matter. I'm not, I absolutely believe the economic shutdown could be handled much better. I believe that a certain party doesn't want to actually respond appropriately, because it would violate the narrative they push about government incompetence. I wish they valued lives more than they do, unfortunately they feel that sacrificing either those to economic plight or disease is worth the value of the idea that government is incompetent. Either that or they are incompetent. Either way they should be removed. > 0.2% dead and everyone loses their minds. May I remind you of 9/11. Covid so far has been a 9/11 in NYC every week for 3 straight weeks. So yeah, declaring war seems par for the course.
    - htnsao 6y ago
      Yeah it's another fabricated excuse to go to war and spend trillions. Show them a few thousand people dying then let no expense be spared.

by htnsao 6y ago

joshuamorton 6y ago

> No actually in both cases it's a miniscule percentage of the overall population. People should be looking at percentages, because absolute values just cause lockdown hysteria. Yes, .2% of NYC residents are dead from Covid. Another % or so will likely have lifelong consequences. And that's with social distancing. Without, we'd be looking at 1% and 5-10%. And many of that 5-10% are young. Looking solely at deaths doesn't tell the whole story. > So the whole exercise is pointless because the virus is going to do it's rounds anyway. Sure sounds like resignation to me. But no, the measures being taken now allow us to understand more about the virus and ways to prevent it. We're seeing lockdowns end and lighten, replaced by more lighweight measures like mask requirements and contact tracing. We could have had this happen weeks ago and have been done at a fraction of the cost, but the US response was delayed due to the same kind of head burying as is happening in Brazil now.

htnsao 6y ago
0.2% dead and everyone loses their minds. > Sure sounds like resignation to me. No it's just reality. I've had a dengue a few times. Some die. People are working to fix it. We don't shut down everything for it. You've resigned to the collateral damage caused from the economic shut down. I have not. Maybe if you had your own business you'd have a different opinion on the matter.
- joshuamorton 6y ago
  > You've resigned to the collateral damage caused from the economic shut down. I have not. Maybe if you had your own business you'd have a different opinion on the matter. I'm not, I absolutely believe the economic shutdown could be handled much better. I believe that a certain party doesn't want to actually respond appropriately, because it would violate the narrative they push about government incompetence. I wish they valued lives more than they do, unfortunately they feel that sacrificing either those to economic plight or disease is worth the value of the idea that government is incompetent. Either that or they are incompetent. Either way they should be removed. > 0.2% dead and everyone loses their minds. May I remind you of 9/11. Covid so far has been a 9/11 in NYC every week for 3 straight weeks. So yeah, declaring war seems par for the course.
  - htnsao 6y ago
    Yeah it's another fabricated excuse to go to war and spend trillions. Show them a few thousand people dying then let no expense be spared.