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I'm not sure I understand your tone. China should be criticized for the things it did wrong and it should be given credit for the things it did right. China fa

I'm not sure I understand your tone. China should be criticized for the things it did wrong and it should be given credit for the things it did right. China failed to contain it. But they did contain SARS in 2002. With Covid19, and after initially mishandling the situation, they imposed some draconian lockdown measures. Why did they initially mishandle the situation, why the cover-up, etc? Because China is a country of 1.4 BN people, with immense government complexities. It's not perfect. So, yes there was some censure going on, strong-arming, location tracking, welcome to the world. Overall, if you were to give China a grade between 1 and 10 what number would you choose? What's US's number? I personally would give China something like 6 or 7 or 8, and the US something like 3. In the end people's lives matter. And the count right now for the US is 80000. And it's not stopping here.

appleiigs 7y ago
How well China did in 2002 is irrelevant. Saying they have immense govt complexity is an excuse. Comparing to US is irrelevant. Why don’t you compare to China’s neighbours such as S. Korea and Taiwan. Start at 10 and take 1 point off China’s score for each of bananabreakfast’s points. Banana didn't mention continuing to lie about the their infection rates, so that’s another point off.
- credit_guy 7y ago
  > Why don’t you compare to China’s neighbours such as S. Korea and Taiwan? S. Korea and Taiwan handled the Covid19 situation much better than China. Much better than everyone else. When Musk is criticized for being upbeat about China, the implicit comparison it with the US though. In this context, the comparison with the US is not irrelevant at all. > Start at 10 and take 1 point off China’s score for each of bananabreakfast’s points. Starting at 10, you can indeed take points from China's score. 1 for each of those points is a bit too much. If your goal is simply to win an argument and get to negative score, I guess you can do that. If you want to do an objective assessment, you do add points for the low number of total deaths. A lot of points. In the US we had the debacle of the tests, the PPE's, the "masks are useless", the "it's safe to travel by plane", the "I don't personally go on cruises, but if you do, it's safe" , etc, etc. And lots of deaths.

appleiigs 7y ago

How well China did in 2002 is irrelevant. Saying they have immense govt complexity is an excuse. Comparing to US is irrelevant. Why don’t you compare to China’s neighbours such as S. Korea and Taiwan. Start at 10 and take 1 point off China’s score for each of bananabreakfast’s points. Banana didn't mention continuing to lie about the their infection rates, so that’s another point off.

credit_guy 7y ago
> Why don’t you compare to China’s neighbours such as S. Korea and Taiwan? S. Korea and Taiwan handled the Covid19 situation much better than China. Much better than everyone else. When Musk is criticized for being upbeat about China, the implicit comparison it with the US though. In this context, the comparison with the US is not irrelevant at all. > Start at 10 and take 1 point off China’s score for each of bananabreakfast’s points. Starting at 10, you can indeed take points from China's score. 1 for each of those points is a bit too much. If your goal is simply to win an argument and get to negative score, I guess you can do that. If you want to do an objective assessment, you do add points for the low number of total deaths. A lot of points. In the US we had the debacle of the tests, the PPE's, the "masks are useless", the "it's safe to travel by plane", the "I don't personally go on cruises, but if you do, it's safe" , etc, etc. And lots of deaths.