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Well no, that's not the inhumane moment. What makes it feel inhumane is when you're laid off with 3700 other employees in a three minute meeting. It means you

Well no, that's not the inhumane moment. What makes it feel inhumane is when you're laid off with 3700 other employees in a three minute meeting. It means you don't get to talk directly with your manager nor are you potentially given a chance to speak with your team.

paypalcust83 6y ago
For-profit corporations without employee ownership and regular employees on the board of directors will inevitably treat employees like disposable cogs or dirt. The mistake many people repeatedly make is the line-up to be abused when they should form their own business ventures with civilized, humane, and Golden Rule treatment of others rather than rent-seeking investors to squeeze blood money out of them and cheat them out of livable wages.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  This. You don't want this to happen to you? Unionize. The tech industry might finally get the wakeup call to unionize.
  - sceptical 6y ago
    How would that help? If a company loses 80% of its revenue over night adjustments will have to be made, union or no union.
    - aaomidi 6y ago
      Adjustments can be made in a much more humane way.
flukus 6y ago
> What makes it feel inhumane is when you're laid off with 3700 other employees in a three minute meeting. At least they spared them one more long meeting where they yap on about how important people are, how this a hard choice, how the company will emerge stronger (like I care), this doesn't reflect upon you personally, etc. They weren't cowards hiding behind nice words while the "liberated" people from their jobs. That's more humane than most companies. > It means you don't get to talk directly with your manager nor are you potentially given a chance to speak with your team. This very often happens during in person layoffs already, "we're sorry to let you go, security has a box with all your crap at the door".
- fzeroracer 6y ago
  > This very often happens during in person layoffs already, "we're sorry to let you go, security has a box with all your crap at the door". Yes...and? That's also an inhumane way of laying off employees and frankly, any company that treats their workers like that deserves to be heavily criticized. Calling this more humane is a bold take, but a wrong one. It's akin to getting laid off in a single mass email across the company. What happens if someone missed the meeting, or if they were otherwise working on stuff with their team? It's flagrant disrespect for their time and the work they've put in for the company. Calling them not cowards when they made the most cowardly way of laying people off isn't right. It's one step away from getting a text from your boss telling you to stop coming in and that they'll mail you your stuff.

paypalcust83 6y ago

For-profit corporations without employee ownership and regular employees on the board of directors will inevitably treat employees like disposable cogs or dirt. The mistake many people repeatedly make is the line-up to be abused when they should form their own business ventures with civilized, humane, and Golden Rule treatment of others rather than rent-seeking investors to squeeze blood money out of them and cheat them out of livable wages.

aaomidi 6y ago
This. You don't want this to happen to you? Unionize. The tech industry might finally get the wakeup call to unionize.
- sceptical 6y ago
  How would that help? If a company loses 80% of its revenue over night adjustments will have to be made, union or no union.
  - aaomidi 6y ago
    Adjustments can be made in a much more humane way.

flukus 6y ago

> What makes it feel inhumane is when you're laid off with 3700 other employees in a three minute meeting. At least they spared them one more long meeting where they yap on about how important people are, how this a hard choice, how the company will emerge stronger (like I care), this doesn't reflect upon you personally, etc. They weren't cowards hiding behind nice words while the "liberated" people from their jobs. That's more humane than most companies. > It means you don't get to talk directly with your manager nor are you potentially given a chance to speak with your team. This very often happens during in person layoffs already, "we're sorry to let you go, security has a box with all your crap at the door".

fzeroracer 6y ago
> This very often happens during in person layoffs already, "we're sorry to let you go, security has a box with all your crap at the door". Yes...and? That's also an inhumane way of laying off employees and frankly, any company that treats their workers like that deserves to be heavily criticized. Calling this more humane is a bold take, but a wrong one. It's akin to getting laid off in a single mass email across the company. What happens if someone missed the meeting, or if they were otherwise working on stuff with their team? It's flagrant disrespect for their time and the work they've put in for the company. Calling them not cowards when they made the most cowardly way of laying people off isn't right. It's one step away from getting a text from your boss telling you to stop coming in and that they'll mail you your stuff.