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I don't know about vacation towns but given expensive urban cites I expect to see large drops in prices. Given covid-19 and its mindset it no longer makes sense

I don't know about vacation towns but given expensive urban cites I expect to see large drops in prices. Given covid-19 and its mindset it no longer makes sense to live in densely crowded expensive metro areas anymore. With large tech companies finally waking up to the fact that remote work actually works expect to see a huge exodus of people from these expensive regions. With all the restaurants and museums closed and really no outside space they don't have much to offer except high taxes and crowds. Also if a engineer can get roughly the same pay but work where they can buy a house instead of have 3 roommates in a 5k a month apt. which would they choose?

smileysteve 6y ago
From my experience, UberEats and Instacart are two pandemic essentials that most city dwellers aren't ready for in a rural environment.
- ghaff 6y ago
  >pandemic essentials Not really. Yes, if someone isn't in a dense urban environment, they're going to need to cook a lot of their meals. But, unless you're in a really rural location, there are supermarkets and at least some restaurants. In a lot of cases you can pickup orders at the door even if you can't get delivery. A lot of people seem to think you're either in Manhattan or in the wilds of Idaho somewhere. There are plenty of places that are in orbit of a major city that aren't actually all that congested.
  - smileysteve 6y ago
    I've spent much of my stay at home where the nearest grocery store that had order ahead was 27 miles away and had a 5 day order ahead time (which was more or less expected). Yes, a handful of restaurants have pickup orders but there are ~4 within a ~5 mile range, and they have the best food without going that 27 miles. It's my perception (in part from the long order ahead times) that grocery and food delivery have gone up in areas that offer them and that modern urbanists that regularly cook at home (or even go to the grocery store only once a week) are a minority.
    - ghaff 6y ago
      Oh, yes, I think delivery has gone up. Personally, I haven't used it (for food). I don't have decent restaurant delivery options--for my tastes. And the stock situation with supermarkets is sufficiently bad that I'd rather go myself and wing substitutions. I have a couple nearby grocery pickup options (an hour outside a major city) but going into a store early on a weekday doesn't feel like a big problem where I live. Opinions may differ of course.
ryanwaggoner 6y ago
I’m skeptical of most of this. I live in NYC and I don’t plan to leave, nor do most of the people I know. The only exceptions are those who only planned to be here for a few years anyway. For everyone else, the assumption seems to be that NYC will be back to normal in 12-24 months.

smileysteve 6y ago

From my experience, UberEats and Instacart are two pandemic essentials that most city dwellers aren't ready for in a rural environment.

ghaff 6y ago
>pandemic essentials Not really. Yes, if someone isn't in a dense urban environment, they're going to need to cook a lot of their meals. But, unless you're in a really rural location, there are supermarkets and at least some restaurants. In a lot of cases you can pickup orders at the door even if you can't get delivery. A lot of people seem to think you're either in Manhattan or in the wilds of Idaho somewhere. There are plenty of places that are in orbit of a major city that aren't actually all that congested.
- smileysteve 6y ago
  I've spent much of my stay at home where the nearest grocery store that had order ahead was 27 miles away and had a 5 day order ahead time (which was more or less expected). Yes, a handful of restaurants have pickup orders but there are ~4 within a ~5 mile range, and they have the best food without going that 27 miles. It's my perception (in part from the long order ahead times) that grocery and food delivery have gone up in areas that offer them and that modern urbanists that regularly cook at home (or even go to the grocery store only once a week) are a minority.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    Oh, yes, I think delivery has gone up. Personally, I haven't used it (for food). I don't have decent restaurant delivery options--for my tastes. And the stock situation with supermarkets is sufficiently bad that I'd rather go myself and wing substitutions. I have a couple nearby grocery pickup options (an hour outside a major city) but going into a store early on a weekday doesn't feel like a big problem where I live. Opinions may differ of course.

ryanwaggoner 6y ago

I’m skeptical of most of this. I live in NYC and I don’t plan to leave, nor do most of the people I know. The only exceptions are those who only planned to be here for a few years anyway. For everyone else, the assumption seems to be that NYC will be back to normal in 12-24 months.