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Well, no -cheap- is good, at least for the consumer paying the ticket. that's what has keept them in business so far I think. Sometimes it's so cheap all other

Well, no -cheap- is good, at least for the consumer paying the ticket. that's what has keept them in business so far I think. Sometimes it's so cheap all other stuff might be palatable if you're getting a 10x price reduction vs another ticket

tyingq 6y ago
Ryanair is a bit beyond the pale...worse than Spirit here in the US. They've planned in the past, for example, to charge a fee for using the toilet. And a different plan to remove them in favor of more seats. Neither panned out, but still.
- yyy888sss 6y ago
  Not really, the CEO just says crazy things to drum up some publicity. He also claimed he would charge fat people more, and that Ryanair was so frugal that they didn't let employees charge their phone at work to save electricity.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    Still speaks to the expected experience to me.
- bjelkeman-again 6y ago
  I am convinced that the talk about charging for using the toilet is just a diversion. You have passengers complaining about charging extra for everything but they end with “Well, at least I don’t have to pay for going to the toilet.” I think it is just clever marketing.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
    I disagree. In my opinion, he was simply testing the waters to see if there would be a lot of pushback. This is kinda how microtransactions eventually became standard. Gamers are not very patient customers and any talk of voting with wallet rarely gains traction.
    - rsynnott 6y ago
      Nah; it would have been illegal, as was pointed out at the time. He was doing it for the publicity.
      - A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
        It is going to sound very cynical, but something being illegal is not always something that would stop a company from doing things. Laws being enforced could and even then it depends on whether it is enforced gently.
        rsynnott 6y ago
        There are some laws that companies will sometimes try to publicly flaunt. In general, laws around aviation safety aren't on the list; very expensive when all your planes get grounded.
- anthonybennis 6y ago
  This is part of the brand building. Ryanair want you to associate their name with cheap and those headlines are deliberately encouraged by their CEO who will use every trick in the book if he gets PR out of it. On a side note, I don't think Ryanair are terrible. They're punctual and have seats that cannot recline, which to me is a positive flight experience.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  That was a joke by the CEO. However, they have investigated (and I believe are still investigating) whether it would be possible to have a standing plane. To be honest, for the Dublin to London route it wouldn't be too bad.

tyingq 6y ago

Ryanair is a bit beyond the pale...worse than Spirit here in the US. They've planned in the past, for example, to charge a fee for using the toilet. And a different plan to remove them in favor of more seats. Neither panned out, but still.

yyy888sss 6y ago
Not really, the CEO just says crazy things to drum up some publicity. He also claimed he would charge fat people more, and that Ryanair was so frugal that they didn't let employees charge their phone at work to save electricity.
- tyingq 6y ago
  Still speaks to the expected experience to me.
bjelkeman-again 6y ago
I am convinced that the talk about charging for using the toilet is just a diversion. You have passengers complaining about charging extra for everything but they end with “Well, at least I don’t have to pay for going to the toilet.” I think it is just clever marketing.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
  I disagree. In my opinion, he was simply testing the waters to see if there would be a lot of pushback. This is kinda how microtransactions eventually became standard. Gamers are not very patient customers and any talk of voting with wallet rarely gains traction.
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    Nah; it would have been illegal, as was pointed out at the time. He was doing it for the publicity.
    - A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
      It is going to sound very cynical, but something being illegal is not always something that would stop a company from doing things. Laws being enforced could and even then it depends on whether it is enforced gently.
      - rsynnott 6y ago
        There are some laws that companies will sometimes try to publicly flaunt. In general, laws around aviation safety aren't on the list; very expensive when all your planes get grounded.
anthonybennis 6y ago
This is part of the brand building. Ryanair want you to associate their name with cheap and those headlines are deliberately encouraged by their CEO who will use every trick in the book if he gets PR out of it. On a side note, I don't think Ryanair are terrible. They're punctual and have seats that cannot recline, which to me is a positive flight experience.
rsynnott 6y ago
That was a joke by the CEO. However, they have investigated (and I believe are still investigating) whether it would be possible to have a standing plane. To be honest, for the Dublin to London route it wouldn't be too bad.