You're getting mixed up between figures and then attacking people who understand them better. Please give the benefit of the doubt! There are two figures being

You're getting mixed up between figures and then attacking people who understand them better. Please give the benefit of the doubt! There are two figures being widely reported for deaths: 1. Total excess mortality of all causes 2. "COVID deaths" The claim was about (2) and so that's what my points were about. Excess death is up, yes. There's a disease, it does cause people to die, especially if they're already vulnerable. Arguments about the all cause mortality spikes are different and not related to the arguments for over-counting of "COVID deaths", which isn't a conspiracy theory but rather actual stated government policy [1]. The figure for "COVID deaths" includes cases where it's merely assumed that the death was caused by COVID. No test or even evidence need be cited. If doctors are completely reliable this wouldn't be a problem, but they get a 20% payment incentive when patients are claimed to be COVID patients [2]. If you're curious about the arguments surrounding all-cause mortality, the problem is that stay-at-home orders have been taken very literally by many sick people. Hospital admissions went down, not up, during this time, because people who should have been going to the emergency room for treatment got scared and stayed away. In the UK, the government just dropped the "stay at home" slogan it's been relentlessly promoting for weeks because - amongst other things - cardiac admissions halved, and doctors are now sounding the alarm about the huge oncoming wave of necessary life-saving treatments that were delayed in the expectation of a COVID surge that never happened. The NHS can't absorb a huge wave like that, because the needed treatments are so varied so you can't just throw up uniform field hospitals like they tried for COVID. In the UK the ONS is already reporting thousands of excess deaths not linked to COVID [3] even though being "linked to COVID" literally requires no evidence at all. There are very real problems here. [1] https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1246124190438227974?lang=en https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1246124190438227974?... [2] https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1251898539107594244?lang=en https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1251898539107594244?... [3] https://medium.com/wintoncentre/covid-and-excess-deaths-in-the-week-ending-april-10th-20ca7d355ec4 https://medium.com/wintoncentre/covid-and-excess-deaths-in-t...