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I want to know why this "guillotine" thing has become so big recently? It has largely been Bernie/DSA people. I find it a bit disturbing. I've seen even very in

I want to know why this "guillotine" thing has become so big recently? It has largely been Bernie/DSA people. I find it a bit disturbing. I've seen even very innocent things like simply being a landlord as "guillotine" worthy on social media. This is pre-COVID. While most landlords are actually middle class people trying to make a side income. I don't think people actually know what they are asking for, they want revenge on a perceived (false) notion, not reform to make it better; it's a very dangerous path. I would bet if the far right were making this type of threat, it wouldn't be brushed under the rug.

taneq 6y ago
It seems popular among certain sociopolitical groups to see other people getting nice things and feel entitled to getting those same nice things yourself, without regard for any effort expended or risks taken by the first group. It's pure "you have, I see, I want, I should be able to take".
- gitrog 6y ago
  I honestly believe your thinking here is one of the biggest misunderstandings of our time. Is it really so hard for you to believe that the majority of constituents in these groups want equality rather than them being envious of others' wealth?
- truculent 6y ago
  I suggest you try a little harder to understand things before you comment on them lest you be mistaken for a fool
mcv 6y ago
I've always assumed it's meant firmly tongue-in-cheek, but it's very morbid humour. But it's also a reminder of how powerless people in the past still managed to take action to rectify injustices, even if it happened in an overly brutal manner. In free, democratic societies, people should have more power to create the change society needs, but it doesn't seem to be working. But it's also a reminder that if the powerful people in society offer too much resistance to the change the people need, at some point the only way to get that change is by extreme overreaction. Personally I'd rather see the revolution happening by the soap box or the ballot box rather than the ammo box, but when media and voting systems get gamed and corrupted while people's rights and needs keep getting trampled upon, at some point a more violent solution may become unavoidable. But that's going to be very hard to steer and have many harmful side effects.
jowiar 6y ago
> While most landlords are actually middle class people trying to make a side income Maybe elsewhere in the country, but in New York, the entire real estate industry is a bunch of blood-sucking insects. Landlords are corporate scum (or Russian scum). Brokers are almost as bad. All have bought the city gov't to ensure that nothing happens that actually helps regular people.

taneq 6y ago

It seems popular among certain sociopolitical groups to see other people getting nice things and feel entitled to getting those same nice things yourself, without regard for any effort expended or risks taken by the first group. It's pure "you have, I see, I want, I should be able to take".

gitrog 6y ago
I honestly believe your thinking here is one of the biggest misunderstandings of our time. Is it really so hard for you to believe that the majority of constituents in these groups want equality rather than them being envious of others' wealth?
truculent 6y ago
I suggest you try a little harder to understand things before you comment on them lest you be mistaken for a fool

mcv 6y ago

I've always assumed it's meant firmly tongue-in-cheek, but it's very morbid humour. But it's also a reminder of how powerless people in the past still managed to take action to rectify injustices, even if it happened in an overly brutal manner. In free, democratic societies, people should have more power to create the change society needs, but it doesn't seem to be working. But it's also a reminder that if the powerful people in society offer too much resistance to the change the people need, at some point the only way to get that change is by extreme overreaction. Personally I'd rather see the revolution happening by the soap box or the ballot box rather than the ammo box, but when media and voting systems get gamed and corrupted while people's rights and needs keep getting trampled upon, at some point a more violent solution may become unavoidable. But that's going to be very hard to steer and have many harmful side effects.

jowiar 6y ago

> While most landlords are actually middle class people trying to make a side income Maybe elsewhere in the country, but in New York, the entire real estate industry is a bunch of blood-sucking insects. Landlords are corporate scum (or Russian scum). Brokers are almost as bad. All have bought the city gov't to ensure that nothing happens that actually helps regular people.