3 ms·

> our infrastructure is unmaintained Bernie supporters are generally the least likely to get their hands dirty and do the kind of work necessary to build and m

> our infrastructure is unmaintained Bernie supporters are generally the least likely to get their hands dirty and do the kind of work necessary to build and maintain infrastructure. Pretty much everyone I meet that does that kind of work is Republican. Not saying this is a universal truth, but it's a somewhat accurate generalization. Source for party affiliation by a sampling of occupations: http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/ http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/

unethical_ban 6y ago
I don't respect your assertion. Not a lot of work to do when it's unfunded. Also looking through your other comments, you seem to question peoples' sources on things without providing any for your own. For posterity, the link was added after I commented and he probably downvoted me.
- mcv 6y ago
  This is of course the big issue with infrastructure. The problem isn't the people doing the work, the problem is that they need to get paid for doing the work. Funding infrastructure is a political decision.
chipotle_coyote 6y ago
Responding to "our infrastructure is unmaintained" with "Bernie supporters won't be in the jobs actually doing the building because I found this cool infographic showing that bartenders lean Democratic and beer wholesalers lean Republican" is beyond mere non-sequitur into genuine weirdness. It's not like our infrastructure problems are new, or weren't remarked on before 2016. They've been building for decades. They were there in the Obama administration, and the Bush administration, and the Clinton administration, and the other Bush administration, and the Reagan administration. Do you think the problem through all those years was our critical shortage of leftist construction workers?
- malandrew 6y ago
  Neither bartender nor beer distributor are building infrastructure.
mcv 6y ago
That list actually does a good job comparing related professions. For example, while home builders lean Republican, architects lean Democrat. Plumbers Republican, carpenters Democrat. I don't see this support your assertion at all. Road workers or bridge builders are not listed at all.
- Tiksi 6y ago
  > Road workers or bridge builders are not listed at all. If you scroll past the 1:1 comparisons and hit expand all, there's a much bigger list of occupations, many of which would fall under the "people building infrastructure" umbrella. Looking at those jobs it seems like it leans a bit right, but overall is fairly balanced.
  - mcv 6y ago
    It's certainly an interesting list to browse through. Some make sense, some are surprising, some don't make sense at all. You'd expect most jobs to be roughly 50/50 divided between Republican and Democrat. (Actually, I'd expect a big chunk Independent. What happened to those?) Some lean so strongly to one side that it makes me wonder what's going on there. Environmentalist strongly Dem and oil worker strongly Rep makes sense. I suppose high-paying jobs with authority like pilot leaning more Rep whereas service-oriented jobs like flight attendant leaning more Dem is also understandable. But farmers lean Rep, but once they retire they lean Dem. Why? I'm a bit surprised to see stay-at-home moms as well as most religious professions lean strongly Dem. I mean, to me it makes sense that religious people lean left, but it often sounds like many Americans feel exactly the opposite about that. I guess I'm glad to see these stats make more sense than the news. But in skilled trades, I absolutely don't understand the reason for the large differences. Why would a locksmith or machinist lean to strongly Rep, while sheet metal workers and cartographers lean so strongly Dem? I can't think of any good reason for that difference. I see a lot of inspectors and rafety/regulation related professions lean somewhat Dem, but safety director leans very strongly Rep. And what's the difference between a landscape contractor and a gardener? Or a landscaper and a garden designer? Could it be that some people choose to identify by a particular professional label based on their political leaning, rather than the other way around? And how representative are the various groups? If you asked only 4 horticulturists, it's easy to get 3/4 of them leaning one way or the other. How many book publishers did they ask that all of them are Democrats? Surely there are also Republican book publishers?

unethical_ban 6y ago

I don't respect your assertion. Not a lot of work to do when it's unfunded. Also looking through your other comments, you seem to question peoples' sources on things without providing any for your own. For posterity, the link was added after I commented and he probably downvoted me.

mcv 6y ago
This is of course the big issue with infrastructure. The problem isn't the people doing the work, the problem is that they need to get paid for doing the work. Funding infrastructure is a political decision.

chipotle_coyote 6y ago

Responding to "our infrastructure is unmaintained" with "Bernie supporters won't be in the jobs actually doing the building because I found this cool infographic showing that bartenders lean Democratic and beer wholesalers lean Republican" is beyond mere non-sequitur into genuine weirdness. It's not like our infrastructure problems are new, or weren't remarked on before 2016. They've been building for decades. They were there in the Obama administration, and the Bush administration, and the Clinton administration, and the other Bush administration, and the Reagan administration. Do you think the problem through all those years was our critical shortage of leftist construction workers?

malandrew 6y ago
Neither bartender nor beer distributor are building infrastructure.

mcv 6y ago

That list actually does a good job comparing related professions. For example, while home builders lean Republican, architects lean Democrat. Plumbers Republican, carpenters Democrat. I don't see this support your assertion at all. Road workers or bridge builders are not listed at all.

Tiksi 6y ago
> Road workers or bridge builders are not listed at all. If you scroll past the 1:1 comparisons and hit expand all, there's a much bigger list of occupations, many of which would fall under the "people building infrastructure" umbrella. Looking at those jobs it seems like it leans a bit right, but overall is fairly balanced.
- mcv 6y ago
  It's certainly an interesting list to browse through. Some make sense, some are surprising, some don't make sense at all. You'd expect most jobs to be roughly 50/50 divided between Republican and Democrat. (Actually, I'd expect a big chunk Independent. What happened to those?) Some lean so strongly to one side that it makes me wonder what's going on there. Environmentalist strongly Dem and oil worker strongly Rep makes sense. I suppose high-paying jobs with authority like pilot leaning more Rep whereas service-oriented jobs like flight attendant leaning more Dem is also understandable. But farmers lean Rep, but once they retire they lean Dem. Why? I'm a bit surprised to see stay-at-home moms as well as most religious professions lean strongly Dem. I mean, to me it makes sense that religious people lean left, but it often sounds like many Americans feel exactly the opposite about that. I guess I'm glad to see these stats make more sense than the news. But in skilled trades, I absolutely don't understand the reason for the large differences. Why would a locksmith or machinist lean to strongly Rep, while sheet metal workers and cartographers lean so strongly Dem? I can't think of any good reason for that difference. I see a lot of inspectors and rafety/regulation related professions lean somewhat Dem, but safety director leans very strongly Rep. And what's the difference between a landscape contractor and a gardener? Or a landscaper and a garden designer? Could it be that some people choose to identify by a particular professional label based on their political leaning, rather than the other way around? And how representative are the various groups? If you asked only 4 horticulturists, it's easy to get 3/4 of them leaning one way or the other. How many book publishers did they ask that all of them are Democrats? Surely there are also Republican book publishers?