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> instead of settling down and focusing on getting the most out of a platform How do you know when to settle? Should we have stopped at jQuery? We are doing e

> instead of settling down and focusing on getting the most out of a platform How do you know when to settle? Should we have stopped at jQuery? We are doing exactly what you are asking for, but not in the way you like. Web developers are getting the most of the web platform. The result is that new frameworks and libraries are keep popping up. Most will sink, a few will float and it's okay, this is how evolution should happen. I don't like all tech solutions that I encounter just because they are new. I simply just don't use them in my projects, simple as that. I'm sorry, but the web not just a hypertext document system to find some information, it has outgrown this idea probably 20 years ago.

austincheney 6y ago
> Web developers are getting the most of the web platform. I disagree, as so many (perhaps most) web developers have no idea what to do with web technologies aside from building SPAs in their pet framework.
- seangrogg 6y ago
  And most backend engineers don't go architecture astronaut Kafka, Cassandra, Kubernetes, et al into seemingly straightforward concepts? The number of times I've seen Kubernetes as part of an on-prem install of enterprise software when there will only be one node was hilarious. That front-end devs get flak seems to largely be because their choices are visible, not because they are any different from the weird heaps people throw together behind them.
  - cosmojg 6y ago
    Oh no, that's terrible and idiotic behavior as well. A lot of dumb decisions are made on both the backend and the frontend at many companies; one does not preclude the other.
goostavos 6y ago
>Should we have stopped at jQuery? For the bulk of websites that are mostly static with a little sprinkle of fancy interactions here and there? Maybe. There is a time and place for React. Shocking to some, that place is not actually everywhere on the web. The bulk of the web IS actually about finding information. Few sites are soundcloud style webapps. For context, I like react a lot -- I love its clojurescript re-frame variant. It is what I reach for _when needed_. The rest of the time, give me boring forms, pages, and jQuery and let me get on with my day.

austincheney 6y ago

> Web developers are getting the most of the web platform. I disagree, as so many (perhaps most) web developers have no idea what to do with web technologies aside from building SPAs in their pet framework.

seangrogg 6y ago
And most backend engineers don't go architecture astronaut Kafka, Cassandra, Kubernetes, et al into seemingly straightforward concepts? The number of times I've seen Kubernetes as part of an on-prem install of enterprise software when there will only be one node was hilarious. That front-end devs get flak seems to largely be because their choices are visible, not because they are any different from the weird heaps people throw together behind them.
- cosmojg 6y ago
  Oh no, that's terrible and idiotic behavior as well. A lot of dumb decisions are made on both the backend and the frontend at many companies; one does not preclude the other.

goostavos 6y ago

>Should we have stopped at jQuery? For the bulk of websites that are mostly static with a little sprinkle of fancy interactions here and there? Maybe. There is a time and place for React. Shocking to some, that place is not actually everywhere on the web. The bulk of the web IS actually about finding information. Few sites are soundcloud style webapps. For context, I like react a lot -- I love its clojurescript re-frame variant. It is what I reach for _when needed_. The rest of the time, give me boring forms, pages, and jQuery and let me get on with my day.