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> There’s no category winner like React as an alternative I'm really rooting for frameworks like Phoenix LiveView, Rails Turbolinks, Laravel Livewire to fill

> There’s no category winner like React as an alternative I'm really rooting for frameworks like Phoenix LiveView, Rails Turbolinks, Laravel Livewire to fill this void. SPA like interactivity by just rendering HTML templates and sending them to the client via Ajax or websockets sounds great to me. I wouldn't miss JavaScript one bit.

correlator 6y ago
Rails turbolinks is magic!
- snazz 6y ago
  I quite like Turbolinks too, but it can have some unintended interactions with other JS code. If you're looking to make your non-SPA site faster another way, you can try https://instant.page/ https://instant.page/ as well. It preloads pages as you hover over them, which makes links feel like they load instantaneously. It's a pretty cool trick! You can try it out on their project website or on https://www.snazz.xyz https://www.snazz.xyz.
  - pier25 6y ago
    Cool trick! Sapper (the Svelte framework) does the same if I'm not mistaken.
    - alessioalex 6y ago
      Indeed: https://hn.svelte.dev/ https://hn.svelte.dev/
- theonething 6y ago
  Curious if you (or anyone else) have used the ios and/or Android adapter for mobile? Seems like the repos are getting stale. Getting SPAness on web and mobile apps for free would be the holy grail. Basecamp claims it works great for their mobile app.
  - scottharveyco 6y ago
    The Android turbolinks version 1 adapter is now deprecated but a version 2 is meant to be coming soon. I believe it's going to come out after Basecamp's new product named Hey is released shortly.
    - haidrali 6y ago
      I am waiting for it
ksec 6y ago
I think for Rails the more accurate counter part would be [1] Stimulus Reflex where it is actually modelled after Liveview. But yes, I really hope ( especially the new Phoenix 1.5 ) HTML wins back some mindshare in dev. [1] https://github.com/hopsoft/stimulus_reflex https://github.com/hopsoft/stimulus_reflex

correlator 6y ago

Rails turbolinks is magic!

snazz 6y ago
I quite like Turbolinks too, but it can have some unintended interactions with other JS code. If you're looking to make your non-SPA site faster another way, you can try https://instant.page/ https://instant.page/ as well. It preloads pages as you hover over them, which makes links feel like they load instantaneously. It's a pretty cool trick! You can try it out on their project website or on https://www.snazz.xyz https://www.snazz.xyz.
- pier25 6y ago
  Cool trick! Sapper (the Svelte framework) does the same if I'm not mistaken.
  - alessioalex 6y ago
    Indeed: https://hn.svelte.dev/ https://hn.svelte.dev/
theonething 6y ago
Curious if you (or anyone else) have used the ios and/or Android adapter for mobile? Seems like the repos are getting stale. Getting SPAness on web and mobile apps for free would be the holy grail. Basecamp claims it works great for their mobile app.
- scottharveyco 6y ago
  The Android turbolinks version 1 adapter is now deprecated but a version 2 is meant to be coming soon. I believe it's going to come out after Basecamp's new product named Hey is released shortly.
  - haidrali 6y ago
    I am waiting for it

ksec 6y ago

I think for Rails the more accurate counter part would be [1] Stimulus Reflex where it is actually modelled after Liveview. But yes, I really hope ( especially the new Phoenix 1.5 ) HTML wins back some mindshare in dev. [1] https://github.com/hopsoft/stimulus_reflex https://github.com/hopsoft/stimulus_reflex