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It always surprises me when people completely overlook the evolution TV and film will likely undergo to become stereo 180 (for directed attention experiences) o

It always surprises me when people completely overlook the evolution TV and film will likely undergo to become stereo 180 (for directed attention experiences) or stereo 360 (for passive self-directed experiences) when HMDs become cheap enough that they become ubiquitous. Sure you can watch video without color, sure you can watch film without sound, but why would you? By the same sense, for most cases watching video/film/TV with 3D depth is going to be superior to watching without. The argument that 3D TV never took off is less convincing when you consider that content creation for 3D TV was way more costly than it is for stereo 180/360 VR today, and that 3D TV died before the chicken and egg problem was ever solved. (Even if the HMD market contracts 90% it should still be profitable for small Chinese manufacturers to produce crap-tier HMD for porn). Today a good stereo 180 VR experience can be filmed with an Insta360 Evo or a Vuze XR (my preferred option due to out of the box color grading) which can be had for about $400 USD. ZCam K1 pro and K2 pro can create incredible content (as seen in top pornography) for $3-4k entry price. But it's really hard to convince anyone who hasn't tried it, especially someone who hasn't seen something filed with one of the aforementioned cameras. Especially people who haven't tried VR or well-filmed VR but have tried 3D movies and assumes they are the same the same experience.

renox 6y ago
>By the same sense, for most cases watching video/film/TV with 3D depth is going to be superior to watching without. Uh? Except that to get 3D you have to wear glasses, which is a huge drawback. As for VR, I've tried it 3 times with demos: the first time I got so seasick that I had to stop and was feeling still quite bad 15 minutes after, the second time I nearly fell and the third time I bounced into a wall..
- jeegsy 6y ago
  Sounds like your immersion level was increasing with every try
  - renox 6y ago
    It wasn't the same demo: the first time, it was a roller coaster (a really dumb demo!!), the second time walking on a roof and falling (interesting that it created some fear of heights, but I didn't expect to nearly fall for real during the virtual fall due to the change of POV)
whytaka 6y ago
My bet is that passive entertainment in VR will never catch real traction. Beyond gaming, entertainment will continue to be passive leisure. There is really no point for me to look around when I'm watching something other than the thing I'm supposed to watch. I don't want to miss out on some detail in a movie because I wasn't facing the right direction.
defterGoose 6y ago
>Sure you can watch video without color, sure you can watch film without sound, but why would you? >By the same sense, for most cases watching video/film/TV with 3D depth is going to be superior to watching without. I think what you're overlooking here is that this type of content is largely desirable because the "limitations" are actually an integral part of the narrative. It is possible that directors of 3d content simply don't understand yet how to frame the flow of information in 3D media compared to traditional direction, but it's equally likely that this sort of "you get to choose what you see all the time" is actually detrimental to good story-telling. There's a laziness aspect too, in that oftentimes people want to consume content as an exercise in turning their brain "off", rather than engaging more actively. If the content takes more mental energy to consume, people might not prefer that.

renox 6y ago

>By the same sense, for most cases watching video/film/TV with 3D depth is going to be superior to watching without. Uh? Except that to get 3D you have to wear glasses, which is a huge drawback. As for VR, I've tried it 3 times with demos: the first time I got so seasick that I had to stop and was feeling still quite bad 15 minutes after, the second time I nearly fell and the third time I bounced into a wall..

jeegsy 6y ago
Sounds like your immersion level was increasing with every try
- renox 6y ago
  It wasn't the same demo: the first time, it was a roller coaster (a really dumb demo!!), the second time walking on a roof and falling (interesting that it created some fear of heights, but I didn't expect to nearly fall for real during the virtual fall due to the change of POV)

whytaka 6y ago

My bet is that passive entertainment in VR will never catch real traction. Beyond gaming, entertainment will continue to be passive leisure. There is really no point for me to look around when I'm watching something other than the thing I'm supposed to watch. I don't want to miss out on some detail in a movie because I wasn't facing the right direction.

defterGoose 6y ago

>Sure you can watch video without color, sure you can watch film without sound, but why would you? >By the same sense, for most cases watching video/film/TV with 3D depth is going to be superior to watching without. I think what you're overlooking here is that this type of content is largely desirable because the "limitations" are actually an integral part of the narrative. It is possible that directors of 3d content simply don't understand yet how to frame the flow of information in 3D media compared to traditional direction, but it's equally likely that this sort of "you get to choose what you see all the time" is actually detrimental to good story-telling. There's a laziness aspect too, in that oftentimes people want to consume content as an exercise in turning their brain "off", rather than engaging more actively. If the content takes more mental energy to consume, people might not prefer that.