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Public health is a constantly changing landscape made up of frequently shifting inputs and analysis. It’s only in recent decades that our desire for absolutes h

by vwcx 6y ago

Public health is a constantly changing landscape made up of frequently shifting inputs and analysis. It’s only in recent decades that our desire for absolutes has really given people the idea that these things should be simple. Every country on earth has to move the goalposts during a pandemic — this is a sign the system is still working.

toomuchtodo 6y ago
But then you must provide additional economic support to those impacted accordingly, as you regulate public behavior through updates to public health orders.
- ceejayoz 6y ago
  Most countries are doing that. The one-off $1,200 in the US is fairly unique.
  - RandomInteger4 6y ago
    Can you provide citations to which countries exactly you're referring to by the phrase "most countries?"
    - ceejayoz 6y ago
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/europe-seeks-to-limit-coronavirus-crisis-with-unprecedented-offers-to-pay-private-sector-salaries/2020/03/24/1f099a5a-6abe-11ea-b199-3a9799c54512_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/europe-seeks-to-... > France, Germany, Denmark, Britain and others have decided to take over the payrolls of struggling companies, so that workers don’t get laid off. The hope is that by paying people to stay home, governments can slow the virus’s spread while also averting an economic depression. > Since many European countries had similar social safety net programs already, albeit in far more limited form, the salary supports were relatively easy to expand, almost literally overnight in many places, amid widespread consensus. When they imposed their economically devastating lockdowns, countries were thus able to signal to workers that their livelihoods would remain intact and to businesses that they wouldn’t immediately implode.
      - DuskStar 6y ago
        > France, Germany, Denmark, Britain and others have decided to take over the payrolls of struggling companies Didn't the US largely do this too, via a forgivable loan to companies?
        ceejayoz 6y ago
        Sorta. It's only partially forgivable, the rules are complex, and it ran out of the first round of funds in under two weeks.
philjohn 6y ago
And now that we know more about the mortality rate, what comorbidities lead to a worse prognosis etc., models that project deaths, hospital stays and the capacity of the health service to cope have been refined. That's not to mention that many places in rural America have no capacity to deal with a pandemic - just think about the hospital in the Netflix Pandemic documentary ...

by vwcx 6y ago

toomuchtodo 6y ago

But then you must provide additional economic support to those impacted accordingly, as you regulate public behavior through updates to public health orders.

ceejayoz 6y ago
Most countries are doing that. The one-off $1,200 in the US is fairly unique.
- RandomInteger4 6y ago
  Can you provide citations to which countries exactly you're referring to by the phrase "most countries?"
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/europe-seeks-to-limit-coronavirus-crisis-with-unprecedented-offers-to-pay-private-sector-salaries/2020/03/24/1f099a5a-6abe-11ea-b199-3a9799c54512_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/europe-seeks-to-... > France, Germany, Denmark, Britain and others have decided to take over the payrolls of struggling companies, so that workers don’t get laid off. The hope is that by paying people to stay home, governments can slow the virus’s spread while also averting an economic depression. > Since many European countries had similar social safety net programs already, albeit in far more limited form, the salary supports were relatively easy to expand, almost literally overnight in many places, amid widespread consensus. When they imposed their economically devastating lockdowns, countries were thus able to signal to workers that their livelihoods would remain intact and to businesses that they wouldn’t immediately implode.
    - DuskStar 6y ago
      > France, Germany, Denmark, Britain and others have decided to take over the payrolls of struggling companies Didn't the US largely do this too, via a forgivable loan to companies?
      - ceejayoz 6y ago
        Sorta. It's only partially forgivable, the rules are complex, and it ran out of the first round of funds in under two weeks.

philjohn 6y ago

And now that we know more about the mortality rate, what comorbidities lead to a worse prognosis etc., models that project deaths, hospital stays and the capacity of the health service to cope have been refined. That's not to mention that many places in rural America have no capacity to deal with a pandemic - just think about the hospital in the Netflix Pandemic documentary ...