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Depends on your definition of “family”, I guess, so I wouldn’t throw this around as a universal wisdom. For a lot of people, their family is something that, in
by filoleg 7y ago
Depends on your definition of “family”, I guess, so I wouldn’t throw this around as a universal wisdom.
For a lot of people, their family is something that, indeed, is the closest relationship they will ever have. For others, their family is simply the environment and people they grew up with, and that doesn’t always mean it was pleasant or relevant as an adult. Those people just make “adoptive families” with closest friends, but that isn’t typically referred to as “families” of any kind. And i am not talking only about scenarios where the actual families were abusive or anything like that.
Here goes a personal example of the latter that, I believe, is pretty common. I grew up fine. My parents cared for me, provided for me as a kid. They weren’t “abusive” or anything like that. I really appreciated all the care, despite a lot of their failings as parents. I have zero hatred, anger, or any other ill feelings towards my family. We have always been on really good terms. Just mentioning that, so it is clear i am not making my point from an edge case position of someone who was abused by their actual family and now despises them.
But as i grew up, i realized that people in my family were just not pleasant or reasonable adults to be around (and no, i am not talking in terms of political opinions or some other typical stuff teenagers on reddit tend to whine about). I still visit them, i still spend time with them. But it is more of a sign of appreciation, gratitude, and respect, at this point. I do not enjoy spending prolonged periods of time with them, i cannot share my deepest secrets with them, i cannot hope for them to be understanding of a lot of things and decisions in my life, and i cannot get any good advice from them either. And mind you, i am not even in a situation where i need to “come out” to my parents (or anything like that), we are talking about much more insignificant things.
However, I do have a few extremely close friends who have persisted in my life for a really long time, and with them, I can absolutely share all those things and receive a useful advice. And they count on me to provide the same for them. Our relationship with each other is way more than the “respectful sign of appreciation” kind of a relationship i have with my actual family. But to me, those few extremely close friends are what i would count as the kind of people who are my family. And in that sense, they are there for me in all the ways that my actual family is not.
TL;DR: while your actual family can be what the family is supposed to be about, this is far from being always the case, and your few very close friends can fulfill that role for each other in ways that your actual family failed to.
- NicoJuicy 7y agoThe statement still remains. It's not because they are not your favorite people that they aren't your family all of the sudden. Your mom by birth is and stays your mom. They can be replaced, but there won't be another "mom" in the blood bound sense. There can be less than optional cases concerning social issues, it doesn't mean it is not true. If you break with a friend, as everyone here has done. It is a lot easier as there is no recurring encounters ( edge-cases here apply ofc) TLDR: A lot of people seem to misinterpret social issues, while I meant the blood bound of my comment. The family ( in that sense) stays, the relation can go bad, ofc. As is the same with friends, but the family relation isn't disappearing. Example: People are more intrigued to see their birth father/mother, which is perfectly possible they have never seen and have been replaced. There is no factual social relation, but it was and is their parent/family. Example 2: You are still going to visit your family although you don't have a deep relation with them anymore. That's perfectly fine and actually affirms my statement. If one of your closest relationships suddenly has children and his priorities could change. It's perfectly possible that your relation will lessen over a 2-year period ( eg. His wife is always joining and you don't have deep conversations anymore, so you meet him less, ...). Ps. If you want to challenge the statement. Who else are you visiting outside of your family because of "respect" :) . Do you do something similar for a friend/acquaintance? :) Or if you would have money problems. Would you stay at your parents or your friends place as last resort. Who would you ask first/feel most comfortable with asking? :) ( Edge-cases are possible ofc)
- filoleg 7y agoI haven't downvoted you btw, I think you bring up good points with this post. I guess my question is, how do adoptive (i.e., not blood-related) parents fit into your argument? I assume you treat them the same as the blood-related ones, since one of your main points was about reoccurring encounters, which is the aspect that should differ at all between adoptive vs. blood-related? P.S. not trying to argue against your points, I am just trying to clarify, so I can rough out the edges of my understanding of what you said.