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Had the US (at all govt levels) actually treated this seriously, as a health problem and not economic/political problem, we could be in a situation like Taiwan/

Had the US (at all govt levels) actually treated this seriously, as a health problem and not economic/political problem, we could be in a situation like Taiwan/NZ. The US is large, but mostly insulated, so this was feasible. But it would have required EVERYONE wearing masks, and no delays in locking things down (one day of delay in an exponential situation is like 4 more days of lockdown at the other end)

rjzzleep 6y ago
What's more is that since Taiwan published their email they sent to the WHO in December about the severeness of the threat and given the fact that the US is basically considered their only real ally, they almost certainly directly warned the US. Of course I doubt that they would ever say that in public given that they don't want to piss off their only big military ally with a vengeful president.
babesh 6y ago
Manipulation whether in good or bad faith is one is the biggest problems in the US. It’s is coming from both sides. Don’t vote for those who will manipulate you.
- tiny_epoch 6y ago
  Unfortunately this means "not voting at all".
- yndoendo 6y ago
  I would have to say that lack of Critical Thinking and latching to Group Think are the biggest problems in the US. These lead to the inability to criticize whom one voted for or people with-in their own groups. Saying something direct often will change the outcome and have the opposite of the wanted response. For example: Two men both buy flowers for women they like. The first man tells her the truth, "I bought them hoping it would increase my chance for sex". The other says, "I thought you might like these", while actually thinking I want to have sex. Which person was better at marketing themselves and have a higher probability of a better outcome? This is actually from "Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense", https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26210508-alchemy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26210508-alchemy. Manipulation has no concept of bad or good but is required in our society to help prevent people from throwing away good ideas.

rjzzleep 6y ago

What's more is that since Taiwan published their email they sent to the WHO in December about the severeness of the threat and given the fact that the US is basically considered their only real ally, they almost certainly directly warned the US. Of course I doubt that they would ever say that in public given that they don't want to piss off their only big military ally with a vengeful president.

babesh 6y ago

Manipulation whether in good or bad faith is one is the biggest problems in the US. It’s is coming from both sides. Don’t vote for those who will manipulate you.

tiny_epoch 6y ago
Unfortunately this means "not voting at all".
yndoendo 6y ago
I would have to say that lack of Critical Thinking and latching to Group Think are the biggest problems in the US. These lead to the inability to criticize whom one voted for or people with-in their own groups. Saying something direct often will change the outcome and have the opposite of the wanted response. For example: Two men both buy flowers for women they like. The first man tells her the truth, "I bought them hoping it would increase my chance for sex". The other says, "I thought you might like these", while actually thinking I want to have sex. Which person was better at marketing themselves and have a higher probability of a better outcome? This is actually from "Alchemy: The Surprising Power of Ideas That Don't Make Sense", https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26210508-alchemy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26210508-alchemy. Manipulation has no concept of bad or good but is required in our society to help prevent people from throwing away good ideas.