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In what way is World of Warcraft a "walled garden"? It's a single game. If anything, it's one of the most extensible online games made by a major studio. Do you

In what way is World of Warcraft a "walled garden"? It's a single game. If anything, it's one of the most extensible online games made by a major studio. Do you just mean "walled garden" as "not FOSS"? It's a game as a service, sure, but that doesn't make it a scam. That's like saying that renting an apartment is a scam because you don't own it. You can question if it's a good financial decision, but that doesn't make it not a fair exchange of money for a product.

jenscow 6y ago
But... when I buy a gun in one game, I'd like to be able to use it in another.
shm33 6y ago
You don't get that mmo's are just rebranded PC RPG's, they are a fake genre invented to convince gullible people like you to give up game ownership. Someone who was rational would have demanded the server exe and the ability to own ultima online, you could have had the same "MMO" for a fixed price, no montlhy fee and the server EXE. Client-server is the same as INCOMPLETE SOFTWARE, why would you buy a game or operating system where the second CD/DVD needs a foreign computer with the "key disc" that disables your software remotely? You don't get that the true purpose of "MMO's" was to move undermine software ownership for every piece of software on the planet, you don't get if you accept client-server for one piece of software, you accept it for ALL SOFTWARE. Because all software is, is a list of binary numbers, instructions, if you are not given a complete set of instructions to run the entire APP locally you are being conned because it won't stop at RPG's, that is how we ended up with "client server" windows 10, no one should want an operating system, or Microsoft office, where part of the applications files is held hostage on some remote server, it's the same as buying incomplete software, or software with a second DVD missing that they mysteriously kept in their office. You and the rest of mankind are gullible to an insane degree. You don't get the agenda, so I'll have to spell it out for you. Imagine we have a 5 PC lan, and the person in the middle of the network is the programmer and he is making games, mainly PC RPG's, that means if he makes a "client server" rpg and you buy his idea "software as a service" he will do that to EVERY FUTURE PIECE OF SOFTWARE to enrich himself, he is now OWNER of that 5 PC network you dolt, including the operating system, including word processor. EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF SOFTWARE CAN BE MADE CLIENT SERVER IN A NETWORKED WORLD. That means the death of software ownership and personal privacy on your PC. AKA it's literally stealing the software, there is NO FINANCIAL INCENTIVE to go back to local applications if you buy ANY client-server software. For 99% of cases, client server anything, whether that is an operating system, game or word processor is irrational. Because they can now destroy the software you paid for. No one who was rational would buy software with a self-destruct button on it that could be disabled remotely. You don't grasp that most of us hardware gamers in the 90's were expecting PC RPG' to continue with dedicated servers, and saw the mmo supporting half of the nerd kingdom as clueless and dumb, you are the reason why STEAM exists, steam can only exist in a world where the average game buyer is irrational and doesn't get the corporate agenda.

jenscow 6y ago

But... when I buy a gun in one game, I'd like to be able to use it in another.

shm33 6y ago

You don't get that mmo's are just rebranded PC RPG's, they are a fake genre invented to convince gullible people like you to give up game ownership. Someone who was rational would have demanded the server exe and the ability to own ultima online, you could have had the same "MMO" for a fixed price, no montlhy fee and the server EXE. Client-server is the same as INCOMPLETE SOFTWARE, why would you buy a game or operating system where the second CD/DVD needs a foreign computer with the "key disc" that disables your software remotely? You don't get that the true purpose of "MMO's" was to move undermine software ownership for every piece of software on the planet, you don't get if you accept client-server for one piece of software, you accept it for ALL SOFTWARE. Because all software is, is a list of binary numbers, instructions, if you are not given a complete set of instructions to run the entire APP locally you are being conned because it won't stop at RPG's, that is how we ended up with "client server" windows 10, no one should want an operating system, or Microsoft office, where part of the applications files is held hostage on some remote server, it's the same as buying incomplete software, or software with a second DVD missing that they mysteriously kept in their office. You and the rest of mankind are gullible to an insane degree. You don't get the agenda, so I'll have to spell it out for you. Imagine we have a 5 PC lan, and the person in the middle of the network is the programmer and he is making games, mainly PC RPG's, that means if he makes a "client server" rpg and you buy his idea "software as a service" he will do that to EVERY FUTURE PIECE OF SOFTWARE to enrich himself, he is now OWNER of that 5 PC network you dolt, including the operating system, including word processor. EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF SOFTWARE CAN BE MADE CLIENT SERVER IN A NETWORKED WORLD. That means the death of software ownership and personal privacy on your PC. AKA it's literally stealing the software, there is NO FINANCIAL INCENTIVE to go back to local applications if you buy ANY client-server software. For 99% of cases, client server anything, whether that is an operating system, game or word processor is irrational. Because they can now destroy the software you paid for. No one who was rational would buy software with a self-destruct button on it that could be disabled remotely. You don't grasp that most of us hardware gamers in the 90's were expecting PC RPG' to continue with dedicated servers, and saw the mmo supporting half of the nerd kingdom as clueless and dumb, you are the reason why STEAM exists, steam can only exist in a world where the average game buyer is irrational and doesn't get the corporate agenda.