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In addition to this, the timing of these announcements in the last two weeks were suspiciously close to lockdown relaxation dates. I would not be surprised if t

In addition to this, the timing of these announcements in the last two weeks were suspiciously close to lockdown relaxation dates. I would not be surprised if the RKI is using these numbers as a tool to influence behaviour, even though they know that there is a rather large error bar on the R factor. A case in point is that before the lockdown restrictions were lifted the R factor was around 0.9, but the RKI said the uncertainties are so high that we cannot be certain it is even below 1 - and suggested delaying the opening. Also, internally leaked government documents a few weeks ago showed that there is an explicit strategy of the government, to generate fear in the population in order to make people comply.

corty 6y ago
Also, their numbers, cases as well as R factor, show a strong weekly periodicity. Leading to hilarious press conferences on wednesdays where the spread panic because the cases from the weekend have finally been passed through bureaucracy... Only to announce improving case numbers on fridays. Their R calculation uses a 4day sliding window, so the increase is just the usual wednesday I guess.
pintxo 6y ago
Sources please. Or it did not happen: > Also, internally leaked government documents a few weeks ago showed that there is an explicit strategy of the government, to generate fear in the population in order to make people comply.
- camus42 6y ago
  Source I could find: https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/aus-dem-innenministerium-wie-sag-ichs-den-leuten-internes-papier-empfiehlt-den-deutschen-angst-zu-machen_id_11851227.html https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/aus-dem-innenminist... (includes the link to the document).
  - pintxo 6y ago
    Interesting. Full document is also linked there: https://fragdenstaat.de/dokumente/4123-wie-wir-covid-19-unter-kontrolle-bekommen/ https://fragdenstaat.de/dokumente/4123-wie-wir-covid-19-unte... A quick scan seems to indicate a document meant to summarize the situation and possible outcomes including options for actions. They explicitly propose to be as transparent as possible and to openly discuss the worst case scenario. Without reading it in depth, this sounds like a sensible thing to write down to prepare the relevant authorities for what's coming. Relevant quote: > Wir müssen wegkommen von einer Kommunikation, die auf die Fallsterblichkeitsrate zentriert ist. Bei einer prozentual unerheblich klingenden Fallsterblichkeitsrate, die vor allem die Älteren betrifft, denken sich viele dann unbewusst und uneingestanden: «Naja, so werden wir die Alten los, die unsere Wirtschaft nach unten ziehen, wir sind sowieso schon zu viele auf der Erde, und mit ein bisschen Glück erbe ich so schon ein bisschen früher» Google Translate> We have to get away from communication centered on the case mortality rate. With a case mortality rate that sounds insignificant in percentage terms, and which affects the elderly in particular, many then think subconsciously and admittedly: «Well, this is how we get rid of the elderly who are pulling our economy down, we are already too many on earth anyway, and with a bit of luck I inherit a little earlier » And I would say this is quite spot on, for what we actually see on Twitter and elsewhere...

corty 6y ago

Also, their numbers, cases as well as R factor, show a strong weekly periodicity. Leading to hilarious press conferences on wednesdays where the spread panic because the cases from the weekend have finally been passed through bureaucracy... Only to announce improving case numbers on fridays. Their R calculation uses a 4day sliding window, so the increase is just the usual wednesday I guess.

pintxo 6y ago

Sources please. Or it did not happen: > Also, internally leaked government documents a few weeks ago showed that there is an explicit strategy of the government, to generate fear in the population in order to make people comply.

camus42 6y ago
Source I could find: https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/aus-dem-innenministerium-wie-sag-ichs-den-leuten-internes-papier-empfiehlt-den-deutschen-angst-zu-machen_id_11851227.html https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/aus-dem-innenminist... (includes the link to the document).
- pintxo 6y ago
  Interesting. Full document is also linked there: https://fragdenstaat.de/dokumente/4123-wie-wir-covid-19-unter-kontrolle-bekommen/ https://fragdenstaat.de/dokumente/4123-wie-wir-covid-19-unte... A quick scan seems to indicate a document meant to summarize the situation and possible outcomes including options for actions. They explicitly propose to be as transparent as possible and to openly discuss the worst case scenario. Without reading it in depth, this sounds like a sensible thing to write down to prepare the relevant authorities for what's coming. Relevant quote: > Wir müssen wegkommen von einer Kommunikation, die auf die Fallsterblichkeitsrate zentriert ist. Bei einer prozentual unerheblich klingenden Fallsterblichkeitsrate, die vor allem die Älteren betrifft, denken sich viele dann unbewusst und uneingestanden: «Naja, so werden wir die Alten los, die unsere Wirtschaft nach unten ziehen, wir sind sowieso schon zu viele auf der Erde, und mit ein bisschen Glück erbe ich so schon ein bisschen früher» Google Translate> We have to get away from communication centered on the case mortality rate. With a case mortality rate that sounds insignificant in percentage terms, and which affects the elderly in particular, many then think subconsciously and admittedly: «Well, this is how we get rid of the elderly who are pulling our economy down, we are already too many on earth anyway, and with a bit of luck I inherit a little earlier » And I would say this is quite spot on, for what we actually see on Twitter and elsewhere...