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The polemic style writing is really off-putting, but I wholeheartedly agree with this. I know Microsoft keeps trying and failing, but I think they will eventua

by badRNG 6y ago

The polemic style writing is really off-putting, but I wholeheartedly agree with this. I know Microsoft keeps trying and failing, but I think they will eventually succeed with a separate version of Windows that is clearly a separate "walled garden" product, that is far more secure, far better performance, only supports UWP apps, and is uncoupled from being in the backwards-compatibility hell that the "main" Windows variant is. Such a product "powered by Microsoft Office" would be an incredibly compelling Chromebook competitor. As to whether or not it will support ARM, support AD, or even be open source, only time will tell. I could definitely see something like Windows X or a rebuilt Windows S (locked into S) being a glimpse into this future.

atomi 6y ago
I don't personally find it off-putting. Op made some great points. and they deserve to be addressed on their merits, not on their tone.
- noirbot 6y ago
  You can make great points without saying everyone else on the site is "levels of stupid". That's unnecessary, unhelpful, and just escalates the debate immediately. OP is the one who brought an incensed and polemical tone to this thread - asking everyone else to only react to the substance just gives them a free pass on what is innately anti-social behavior that detracts from a civil discussion.
  - shm33 6y ago
    >That's unnecessary, unhelpful, and just escalates the debate immediately. Stating facts about the fact that everyone is losing control of their PC's because of their stupid consumer behavior is not in any way inflammatory. Why would you give away your basic rights to own and control your own PC and have it coded honestly unless you were irrational? There are dire implications for privacy and human rights if you believe in "cloud computing" which I refer to as "stolen software as a service" SaaS can only exist in a world where the public is irrational, you are building turnkey dictatorship infrastructure, if the world ever goes south because every piece of software can monitor and spy on everything you do and is broadcast to foreign companies and governments, you are naively trusting these foreign entities have your best interests in mind. I'd say that qualifies the word "stupid" in my post. You've just allowed every big company to spy on you permanently and helped wipe out privacy for the rest by producing perverse market incentives for software that locks down our devices and removes our freedom and privacy.
  - atomi 6y ago
    No, I know. I get the ideological desire for the point you make. But I find some levels of rancor endearing, genuine and humanizing especially when the points seem to merit it.
    - noirbot 6y ago
      Some of it is also the OP seems to have a history of just going around making incendiary posts and insulting the intelligence of anyone they disagree with. It's endearing the first time - when you've got a pattern of it, and often don't actually bother to reply or discuss with anyone, you're just a flame-bait.
hakfoo 6y ago
It sounds a lot like Windows RT. Marketing it would be an incredibly tiny needle to thread-- promoting the OS can run Microsoft Office while immediately changing the message when they ask about every old no-source-available compiled-for-Windows-98 app. It feels like the people who can switch easily probably jumped to Chromebooks already.
- badRNG 6y ago
  It is a lot like Windows RT, because I feel like they've been trying this model every year. Windows RT, Windows 10 S Mode, Windows 10X... The latter (designed for dual screen laptops) is coming to single screen devices. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/4/21246561/microsoft-windows-10x-single-screens-windows-usage-demand-coronavirus-pandemic https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/4/21246561/microsoft-windows...

by badRNG 6y ago

atomi 6y ago

I don't personally find it off-putting. Op made some great points. and they deserve to be addressed on their merits, not on their tone.

noirbot 6y ago
You can make great points without saying everyone else on the site is "levels of stupid". That's unnecessary, unhelpful, and just escalates the debate immediately. OP is the one who brought an incensed and polemical tone to this thread - asking everyone else to only react to the substance just gives them a free pass on what is innately anti-social behavior that detracts from a civil discussion.
- shm33 6y ago
  >That's unnecessary, unhelpful, and just escalates the debate immediately. Stating facts about the fact that everyone is losing control of their PC's because of their stupid consumer behavior is not in any way inflammatory. Why would you give away your basic rights to own and control your own PC and have it coded honestly unless you were irrational? There are dire implications for privacy and human rights if you believe in "cloud computing" which I refer to as "stolen software as a service" SaaS can only exist in a world where the public is irrational, you are building turnkey dictatorship infrastructure, if the world ever goes south because every piece of software can monitor and spy on everything you do and is broadcast to foreign companies and governments, you are naively trusting these foreign entities have your best interests in mind. I'd say that qualifies the word "stupid" in my post. You've just allowed every big company to spy on you permanently and helped wipe out privacy for the rest by producing perverse market incentives for software that locks down our devices and removes our freedom and privacy.
- atomi 6y ago
  No, I know. I get the ideological desire for the point you make. But I find some levels of rancor endearing, genuine and humanizing especially when the points seem to merit it.
  - noirbot 6y ago
    Some of it is also the OP seems to have a history of just going around making incendiary posts and insulting the intelligence of anyone they disagree with. It's endearing the first time - when you've got a pattern of it, and often don't actually bother to reply or discuss with anyone, you're just a flame-bait.

hakfoo 6y ago

It sounds a lot like Windows RT. Marketing it would be an incredibly tiny needle to thread-- promoting the OS can run Microsoft Office while immediately changing the message when they ask about every old no-source-available compiled-for-Windows-98 app. It feels like the people who can switch easily probably jumped to Chromebooks already.

badRNG 6y ago
It is a lot like Windows RT, because I feel like they've been trying this model every year. Windows RT, Windows 10 S Mode, Windows 10X... The latter (designed for dual screen laptops) is coming to single screen devices. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/4/21246561/microsoft-windows-10x-single-screens-windows-usage-demand-coronavirus-pandemic https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/4/21246561/microsoft-windows...