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I need to send this to the people who designed the website for one of my favorite local pizza places, Dino's (https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ https://www.dinost

I need to send this to the people who designed the website for one of my favorite local pizza places, Dino's (https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ https://www.dinostomatopie.com/) -- they did _really_ well, generally, but no matter how hard you try, some things come through: the fonts rendered as text are perfectly crisp at whatever absurd DPI this Chromebook has.

toothbrush 6y ago
That is amazing. I'm adding them to the business directory!
innocenat 6y ago
I was disappointed when the guestbook link to Facebook.
qubex 6y ago
That’s a real “blast from the past” vibe. I’m absolutely impressed!
phinnaeus 6y ago
My god, they even have a working link to a zip file containing a Netscape Navigator exe. I hope that's on a CDN.
- romwell 6y ago
  It's not, the download failed several times for me. When it finally worked, I was disappointed to see that I couldn't get it to run on Win 10 (64-bit). (It does appear to be a Windows executable, though)
  - arrayjumper 6y ago
    I'm happy to report that I was able to download the zip file and run the executable on my Ubuntu box with Wine. It was quite surreal to see Netscape installer running on my 4k monitor. I was even able to open the browser and navigate to Google. Sadly https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ and http://www.dinostomatopie.com/ http://www.dinostomatopie.com/ failed to open with a message saying "Netscape and this server cannot communicate securely because they have no common encryption algorithm(s)".
    - jtvjan 6y ago
      What's the point of forcing HTTPS? It's a pizza place, not a bank.
      - ubercow13 6y ago
        It stops Comcast selling your topping preferences to other pizzerias
      - cecja 6y ago
        It's faster. http://www.httpvshttps.com/ http://www.httpvshttps.com/
      - egeozcan 6y ago
        encryption works much better when it's setup without discrimination. I mean not the encryption itself; in the end, it's a tool not the aim.
      - Cpoll 6y ago
        It stops a man-in-the-middle attacker from trying to exploit your browser/extensions/password manager by injecting code into that site (once the cert is pinned). It might also help with SEO? Google's been pushing for https everywhere.
    - kristopolous 6y ago
      You have to run the old browsers through a local proxy you configure yourself a lot of times these days if you're really interested in surfing the web with it. I'm about to go to sleep but there's ones that forward https as http, convert webp and png to gif, strip JavaScript to prevent the browser from locking up, etc. There's a real world use for this in crazy companies where people are forced on some old browser. This makes them not go down in glorious flames at every site.
      - Wowfunhappy 6y ago
        When you wake up, I'd love to hear more about this. I've searched for https ==> http proxies before and didn't find much. I'm aware of https://github.com/tenox7/wrp https://github.com/tenox7/wrp but converting everything to a gif is quite a bit more destructive!
edejong 6y ago
That needs to be part of our webring! I contacted the webmaster.
m0xte 6y ago
https://www.lingscars.com/ https://www.lingscars.com/ Also comes to mind as too perfect on the font rendering side of things
- dredmorbius 6y ago
  Dear sweet FSM, Ling's Cars! https://ello.co/ferdiz/post/P3wjS7HVW0Zq-7qdRMyVeA https://ello.co/ferdiz/post/P3wjS7HVW0Zq-7qdRMyVeA https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9574350 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9574350
romwell 6y ago
>the fonts rendered as text are perfectly crisp Didn't you read the note at the bottom? "This site is best viewed with Netscape. Download v4.7.2 by clicking here." Clearly, you didn't follow the instructions for best viewing experience!
- jsolson 6y ago
  Ah, that's where it all went wrong, moving beyond Netscape 4!
a_lieb 6y ago
This is glorious. The only way I could tell with any confidence it wasn't real was the clean, modern HTML and CSS (get with the program folks, this should be non-validating XHTML 1.1!) Nice easter egg from the source code: 
- leni536 6y ago
  topgun.mid actually exists.
  - grishka 6y ago
    And I guess I've just found the most authentic and ridiculous way to play a midi file on somewhat modern macOS: run winamp in wine.
  - yutyut 6y ago
    And now I have a new ringtone. Finally, I can wear my love for top gun on my sleeve and—for the first time in a decade—take my phone off vibrate. Edit: why is this so hard to do on an iPhone? Guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
    - seganddr 6y ago
      using many apps with sound enabled is shocking after long periods of app silence. Social media apps sound like slot machines! So much pavlovian conditioning... Not sure how all that is still legal.
dtgay 6y ago
The “Cocktails” section goes straight from one Springsteen reference to another (“Racing in the Street” and “The River”). I love it.
madjam002 6y ago
My favourite part of that website is the position:fixed ceiling fan GIF https://www.dinostomatopie.com/dinostomatomenu.html https://www.dinostomatopie.com/dinostomatomenu.html
beowulfey 6y ago
This is the greatest website I have ever seen. It even looks good on mobile. That’s a major achievement with their stylings.
- ableal 6y ago
  The funny part is that it was a pretty common look for 1997. They even tastefully refrained from the "under construction" image. The other common look was the simple document, such as https://cr.yp.to/djb.html https://cr.yp.to/djb.html
everdrive 6y ago
This is better than 50% of websites out there today. I can find all the buttons, the functions of things are clear, and I know how to contact the owner. The menu is text instead of PDF, and the whole thing appears to run properly without javascript enabled.
- purerandomness 6y ago
  * No scroll-jacking * browser history actually works * middle-click or ctrl+click on a link actually opens links in a new tab. * No loading spinners, content is rendered immediately. This site performs better than most SPAs.
  - ashleyn 6y ago
    * No modal prompts to sign up for a useless newsletter * No enormous overlay asking me to approve cookies
- leephillips 6y ago
  The brilliance goes beyond the web design. From that menu: "DINO would like you to know that more than three toppings will be expensive and won't be any better."
  - lisper 6y ago
    That alone makes me want to order a pizza from them.
  - cat199 6y ago
    dangerous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_stagioni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_stagioni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_formaggi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_formaggi
dmalvarado 6y ago
Holy crap, you can download Netscape 4.7.2 from that site..
icelancer 6y ago
This place is great. A few commenters seem to think this is a joke or not a real pizza place. I assure you all, it is! http://www.seattlemag.com/article/three-impressions-dino-s-tomato-pie http://www.seattlemag.com/article/three-impressions-dino-s-t...
8lall0 6y ago
And the Netscape download link still works :D

toothbrush 6y ago

That is amazing. I'm adding them to the business directory!

innocenat 6y ago

I was disappointed when the guestbook link to Facebook.

qubex 6y ago

That’s a real “blast from the past” vibe. I’m absolutely impressed!

phinnaeus 6y ago

My god, they even have a working link to a zip file containing a Netscape Navigator exe. I hope that's on a CDN.

romwell 6y ago
It's not, the download failed several times for me. When it finally worked, I was disappointed to see that I couldn't get it to run on Win 10 (64-bit). (It does appear to be a Windows executable, though)
- arrayjumper 6y ago
  I'm happy to report that I was able to download the zip file and run the executable on my Ubuntu box with Wine. It was quite surreal to see Netscape installer running on my 4k monitor. I was even able to open the browser and navigate to Google. Sadly https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ and http://www.dinostomatopie.com/ http://www.dinostomatopie.com/ failed to open with a message saying "Netscape and this server cannot communicate securely because they have no common encryption algorithm(s)".
  - jtvjan 6y ago
    What's the point of forcing HTTPS? It's a pizza place, not a bank.
    - ubercow13 6y ago
      It stops Comcast selling your topping preferences to other pizzerias
    - cecja 6y ago
      It's faster. http://www.httpvshttps.com/ http://www.httpvshttps.com/
    - egeozcan 6y ago
      encryption works much better when it's setup without discrimination. I mean not the encryption itself; in the end, it's a tool not the aim.
    - Cpoll 6y ago
      It stops a man-in-the-middle attacker from trying to exploit your browser/extensions/password manager by injecting code into that site (once the cert is pinned). It might also help with SEO? Google's been pushing for https everywhere.
  - kristopolous 6y ago
    You have to run the old browsers through a local proxy you configure yourself a lot of times these days if you're really interested in surfing the web with it. I'm about to go to sleep but there's ones that forward https as http, convert webp and png to gif, strip JavaScript to prevent the browser from locking up, etc. There's a real world use for this in crazy companies where people are forced on some old browser. This makes them not go down in glorious flames at every site.
    - Wowfunhappy 6y ago
      When you wake up, I'd love to hear more about this. I've searched for https ==> http proxies before and didn't find much. I'm aware of https://github.com/tenox7/wrp https://github.com/tenox7/wrp but converting everything to a gif is quite a bit more destructive!

edejong 6y ago

That needs to be part of our webring! I contacted the webmaster.

m0xte 6y ago

https://www.lingscars.com/ https://www.lingscars.com/ Also comes to mind as too perfect on the font rendering side of things

dredmorbius 6y ago
Dear sweet FSM, Ling's Cars! https://ello.co/ferdiz/post/P3wjS7HVW0Zq-7qdRMyVeA https://ello.co/ferdiz/post/P3wjS7HVW0Zq-7qdRMyVeA https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9574350 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9574350

romwell 6y ago

>the fonts rendered as text are perfectly crisp Didn't you read the note at the bottom? "This site is best viewed with Netscape. Download v4.7.2 by clicking here." Clearly, you didn't follow the instructions for best viewing experience!

jsolson 6y ago
Ah, that's where it all went wrong, moving beyond Netscape 4!

a_lieb 6y ago

This is glorious. The only way I could tell with any confidence it wasn't real was the clean, modern HTML and CSS (get with the program folks, this should be non-validating XHTML 1.1!) Nice easter egg from the source code:

leni536 6y ago
topgun.mid actually exists.
- grishka 6y ago
  And I guess I've just found the most authentic and ridiculous way to play a midi file on somewhat modern macOS: run winamp in wine.
- yutyut 6y ago
  And now I have a new ringtone. Finally, I can wear my love for top gun on my sleeve and—for the first time in a decade—take my phone off vibrate. Edit: why is this so hard to do on an iPhone? Guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
  - seganddr 6y ago
    using many apps with sound enabled is shocking after long periods of app silence. Social media apps sound like slot machines! So much pavlovian conditioning... Not sure how all that is still legal.

dtgay 6y ago

The “Cocktails” section goes straight from one Springsteen reference to another (“Racing in the Street” and “The River”). I love it.

madjam002 6y ago

My favourite part of that website is the position:fixed ceiling fan GIF https://www.dinostomatopie.com/dinostomatomenu.html https://www.dinostomatopie.com/dinostomatomenu.html

beowulfey 6y ago

This is the greatest website I have ever seen. It even looks good on mobile. That’s a major achievement with their stylings.

ableal 6y ago
The funny part is that it was a pretty common look for 1997. They even tastefully refrained from the "under construction" image. The other common look was the simple document, such as https://cr.yp.to/djb.html https://cr.yp.to/djb.html

everdrive 6y ago

This is better than 50% of websites out there today. I can find all the buttons, the functions of things are clear, and I know how to contact the owner. The menu is text instead of PDF, and the whole thing appears to run properly without javascript enabled.

purerandomness 6y ago
* No scroll-jacking * browser history actually works * middle-click or ctrl+click on a link actually opens links in a new tab. * No loading spinners, content is rendered immediately. This site performs better than most SPAs.
- ashleyn 6y ago
  * No modal prompts to sign up for a useless newsletter * No enormous overlay asking me to approve cookies
leephillips 6y ago
The brilliance goes beyond the web design. From that menu: "DINO would like you to know that more than three toppings will be expensive and won't be any better."
- lisper 6y ago
  That alone makes me want to order a pizza from them.
- cat199 6y ago
  dangerous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_stagioni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_stagioni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_formaggi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_formaggi

dmalvarado 6y ago

Holy crap, you can download Netscape 4.7.2 from that site..

icelancer 6y ago

This place is great. A few commenters seem to think this is a joke or not a real pizza place. I assure you all, it is! http://www.seattlemag.com/article/three-impressions-dino-s-tomato-pie http://www.seattlemag.com/article/three-impressions-dino-s-t...

8lall0 6y ago

And the Netscape download link still works :D